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A.D.H.D
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Arrow Leaving Home

I would just like to invite you into my world for a while. There is a pretty major and awesome thing, which is happening to me at the moment. Also if you have any advice, tips, questions: fire away. I will appreciate it.

I live in a fairly small house with my mother and my brother, which is perfectly adequate most of the time and I appreciate all the things my mum does for me. I don’t really like our house, and I’ve been contemplating moving out of the house because I’m nearing the end of my formal education at school. I’m still young and naive in the ways of the world. At 17, I think it’s pretty early to be leaving the nest, however I know I am capable of being independent and I think I can handle the responsibilities.

The amazing part of it is that one of my closest male friends is going to be moving into an apartment up the road in the next suburb. Very nice suburb, not to mention the apartment is worth all of $400,000. His uncle bought the property for his children, they have since moved elsewhere and now the apartment is unused. My friend offered to let me stay in the apartment with him. Yes the apartment with 2 bathrooms 4 bedrooms, the works.

He has been a good friend for a long time. I think that I could live with him, and would probably have a lot of fun in the process. We attend the same school, and it would mean we would have to completely prepare ourselves for school, finances, taxes, and the misc. bureaucratic bullshit that goes hand in hand with living independently. Basically and roughly it works out into:

Pros:


  • Living with a close friend
  • Almost rent-free.
  • Close to the CBD
  • Freedom from parents
  • Fun
  • Experience


Cons:

  • It would be during my final year of school.
  • I would have to find a job
  • New responsibilities
  • Living with someone new (good too)
  • Expenses


Travel isn’t an issue, he has a car and we both (will) have licenses.

I’m cautious but excited.

(It wouldn't be until next year when school starts again)

Comments?

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just do it
when i moved out, i ate white rice and ramen noodles the first year.
you can do anything you want to, if you want it bad enuff.

jump in the waters fine

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Hmmm working is shit, that's why they pay you for it. Won't this upset your mum? Make sure that the friend is not really Rogue Warrior

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quote:
Originally posted by Smug Git:
Hmmm working is shit, that's why they pay you for it. Won't this upset your mum? Make sure that the friend is not really Rogue Warrior



I knew the RW comparison would be made, I’ve known this guy for along time, I know the family we’ve been really close friends for along time. It’s real life, deception and avoidance in real life would require skill, I know he will not fuck me over. After all, he can’t avoid me at school, or if I turn up at his house.

Mum is being realistic and explaining everything, which will go wrong, and how hard it will be et cetera. She told me that if I wanted it enough, she couldn’t and wouldn’t stop me leaving. I’ll have her support.


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Sometimes living with friends isn't always a good idea. Just make sure the friendship could last something like that. It's really good to have your mum's support. I'd say go for it. Work ain't too bad. Afterall, I sit online all day.

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Well, if she'll let you back, you're laughing (well, chuckling, maybe). As long as she doesn't tell you 'I told you so' every day for the rest of your life.

Go for it. You have nothing to lose but your testicles (and they grow back, don't they? Don't they?)

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i think that it could work out quite well, as long as you both have good communication with each other.lists are the answer.

you'll both need to sit down and make a list of everything you like/don't like, to see where potential conflict could be. for instance, if you like to listen to the radio loudly as you shower in the morning, and he likes to sleep in.

then you need to make a list of every potential expenditure you will be sharing: rent, electric, phone, water, trash, etc. that way you'll have a realistic idea of about how much you'll be responsible for.

and make a set of "house rules". like, what time the radio or tv HAS to be turned off, how long friends are allowed to stay over, never letting people stay in the house when you're not there, how many people can be over at a time, etc.

sounds like a good idea, as long as you guys don't let your friends trash the place. good luck.


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quote:
Originally posted by morgana:
i think that it could work out quite well, as long as you both have good communication with each other.lists are the answer.

you'll both need to sit down and make a list of everything you like/don't like, to see where potential conflict could be. for instance, if you like to listen to the radio loudly as you shower in the morning, and he likes to sleep in.

then you need to make a list of every potential expenditure you will be sharing: rent, electric, phone, water, trash, etc. that way you'll have a realistic idea of about how much you'll be responsible for.

and make a set of "house rules". like, what time the radio or tv HAS to be turned off, how long friends are allowed to stay over, never letting people stay in the house when you're not there, how many people can be over at a time, etc.

sounds like a good idea, as long as you guys don't let your friends trash the place. good luck.


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Okay, A.D.H.D., this is what you would do if you were either a female or a homosexual. If either of these are the case, then you should follow morgana's advice to the letter.

Now, if in fact you are a heterosexual male, I can probably offer you some advice.

There are three main areas of conflict within the relationship of a man and his roomate.

For one, who has to clean what. Now this is an area of major conflict simply because neither of you will want to clean anything. Fear not, that is perfectly natural. So the real question is not "who cleans what" but rather "how can I get him to clean everything while taking the minimal amount of flak for it?" Now, to that, I would refer to to a paraphrase of a quote from The Usual Suspects. You have to be willing to accept the things the other guy won't.

For example, I had a roomate once who hated empty beer cans. Now, I would do various things with them, like create empty beer can castles, that sort of thing. So when he would whine about the beer cans and tell me to clean up my trash, I would just tell him I didn't consider them trash, but that if my art offended him so much he was free to demolish my sculptures, as destruction can be a form of art as well and I believe that he should be allowed to express himself as well.

That is simply one way of doing it, you have to be creative. But be able to live in filth. It's like a staring contest. You have to figure out at what point he will get so sick of the mess that he will just clean it all his own damn self. You have to be able to live comfortably well beyond that point.

Secondly a major conflict often arises with women. Who gets who, and how you treat the ones the other has gotten.

Now say there are a bunch of girls over and one in particular is desired by both of you. At this point you should simply have a contest. Bet something on it if you like. Then both of you start flirting with her at the same time and doing as much as possible to fuck over the other guy's chances. After an hour or so of heavy drinking, it should become obvious who the girl prefers. At which point the loser should just consign himself to go talk to her fat friend.

Now, something that often comes up is "you know, he's seen this girl a few times, would I be overstepping my bounds if I made a move on her?" Generally, a good rule of thumb is that if your friend has fucked a girl on three or more occassions -- CONSEQUETIVE OCCASSIONS -- then she is "with him". It doesn't count if say he fucks her once, then fucks some other girl twice, then fucks the first girl again, then another girl, and then the first girl a third time. At that point she's just a ho and she is fair game to anybody around at any given moment.

However, if he fucks a girl, then a few days later fucks her again, and then a week later fucks her again, then she is off-limits.

If he has fucked a girl more then 10 consequetive times, and then fucks somebody else, and then goes back to fucking the first girl, that interim girl is a-okay to fuck. But don't fuck his girlfriend because relationships are based on trust.

There are exceptions to this however. I mean, if your roommate has been a real asshole lately, constantly bitching about how you never clean anything up for example, then it is okay to fuck his girlfriend.

Thirdly. Parties. When we should have them, who you should invite, who gets the beer, etc etc. Now this is the REAL big issue.

First of all, a little definition of terms.

PARTY: Involves a keg and over 20 people.

GET-TOGETHER: Under 20 people, no kegs. (those pansy half-kegs don't count)

Get-togethers can happen spontaneously, and having them about 4 or 5 times a week should be a good minimum to start with.

Parties on the other hand should only occur twice a week. Friday and Saturday.

You should rotate who gets the booze. One weekend it is Joe, next weekend Steve. Unless only one of the roommates is of age or has a good fake, at which point that person is the "Beer Bitch" and has to do his duty until the other person is able to, no matter how many years that takes.

Who to invite? That's a toughie. A good rule of thumb is to invite all your friends, and then everybody you see on the way to and coming back from the liquor store. HOWEVER, there are exceptions. Ex-girlfriends, who always somehow show up anyway, should not be invited. Even if she is hot and you two have hit it off in the past, never invite your roommate's ex's. Unless he's been a real dickhead lately and broke up with the girl because he caught her fucking his roommate or something.

I think those are the three major things I can think of. All the minor crap like what morgana was talking about can generally be resolved with projectiles of some sort. Use whatever is handy. I prefer having lots of empty beer cans around me in the shape of a castle so if my roommate is playing the stereo too loud or something, I can just pluck off a buttress and throw it at him.

Then I get to shout "FLYING BUTTRESS!" and cackle maniaclly as my roommate curses.

You're welcome.

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PAINT CHiPS = wisdom

My 2 cents:

If he uses illegal drugs and you do not, don't become room-mates. You will be at risk for being liable for his habit.

If you are both worthless druggies, go for it.


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Paint, that should be posted in college dorms, worldwide.

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quote:
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PAINT CHiPS = wisdom

My 2 cents:

If he uses illegal drugs and you do not, don't become room-mates. You will be at risk for being liable for his habit.





He's not a good roomate if he doesn't make you into an illegal drug user.



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hmmm...seeing as our young ADHD is not even legal smoking age yet, i would consider paint's advice only if i were looking to:

1) have a great summer, only to lose my friend (literally) in the trash dump we'd end up living in.

2) lose the apartment the moment my mother came over for a surprise visit.

3) end up on a forum talking about my summer vacation in juvenile hall, seeing as the cops were called for all the racket on the weekends.

4) all of the above.

paint chips story for legal drinking age college kids= funny

paint chips story for first time underage living experience= not funny

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Does ADHD being in Oz make a difference?

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quote:
originally posted by PC:
Okay, A.D.H.D., this is what you would do if you were either a female or a homosexual. If either of these are the case, then you should follow morgana's advice to the letter.

Now, if in fact you are a heterosexual male, I can probably offer you some advice



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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHahhahahahahhaahahahAHAHAHHAHA!!!!
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ok that was funny ass shit, i think i woke up somebody by laughing so hard

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Paint CHiPs, That was the funniest fuckin' thing I've read in weeks.

Thanks, I needed that.

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Morgana = Very Wise

Paint Chips = Wasted

heh... Well, I would have to compare the lives of the people giving me advice! Then I could make a more informed choice about what might work or not!!!

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Yup, I think Paint has hit the nail on the head once again, sure reminds me of my first experience outside the homestead.

-m


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it sounds to me that you are in a hurry to grow up. i think that you should mellow out and relax a bit. I think that you should just chill out with your mom for another year or so. going to school and working full time sucks ass.

this is your last year of school, be cool and enjoy it. there will be lots of time to bust your ass to earn your way in the world. have you thought about going to college?? it's the biggest decision that you can make in life. i know a lot of people who grabbed the lure of quick money and freedom and later on regretted it. that describes my best friend anyway. he's making a ton of money as a resturant manager, but he always works, and really he has no options outside of resturant work.

i hope that it works out for you.

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do it do it do it
and become a part of "the secret life of us" hahaha (you live in melbourne , right ?)
oh right and travel.. to sydney for example then lets have some coopers or crowns (to stay with the secret life of us thingy )

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You can either go morgana's route and become a homosexual or you can use my time-honored wisdom and gain life experiences.

Your call man.

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quote:
Originally posted by morgana:
i think that it could work out quite well, as long as you both have good communication with each other.lists are the answer.

you'll both need to sit down and make a list of everything you like/don't like, to see where potential conflict could be. for instance, if you like to listen to the radio loudly as you shower in the morning, and he likes to sleep in.

then you need to make a list of every potential expenditure you will be sharing: rent, electric, phone, water, trash, etc. that way you'll have a realistic idea of about how much you'll be responsible for.

and make a set of "house rules". like, what time the radio or tv HAS to be turned off, how long friends are allowed to stay over, never letting people stay in the house when you're not there, how many people can be over at a time, etc.

sounds like a good idea, as long as you guys don't let your friends trash the place. good luck.


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dont listen to her , she s a woman. you move in with a male means , fridge is always empty but weed and beer will be around. towards end of the month you eat pasta everyday but who cares. the phonebill gas electricity stuff will work out this way or the other .. there ll be times when u ll be cut of the phone for days until there is money to pay the summed up bills. no worries , thats normal , hehehe ... man , you have 4 bedrooms ... get two women to move in , well maybe not


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LEAVE THE BURBS!

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