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The United States has strongly criticised Zimbabwe's Government for "serious human rights abuses" as the looting of white-owned farms continues. A State Department spokesman said the US was "deeply concerned about the level of political violence and intimidation in Zimbabwe", as well as the country's rapid economic decline. "The situation is taking a toll on southern Africa as a region and it's discouraging foreign investment, creating a potential for a refugee crisis and food shortages, and reducing trade within the region," he said.

"We condemn the serious human rights abuses and growing climate of fear and intimidation for which the Government of Zimbabwe bears primary responsibility," he added.

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hmmm intersting. US makes a comment about Zimbabwe. They are also threatening sanctions on Zimbabwe. There are no amercians there, and they have no direct interest there, am I hearing things? Since when have America cared about anything that does not affect their national interest?

/me smells blatent hidden agenda.


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Yale University has been embarrassed by research revealing deep ties between itself and several prominent defenders of slavery in America.

The disclosures coincide with Yale's 300th anniversary, which is being used to trumpet its record of supporting abolitionism and the emancipation of black people.

A paper published yesterday by three doctoral students at Yale reveals that the Ivy League university continued to name buildings on its campus after champions of slavery until 40 years ago. It also notes that Yale's first scholarships and endowments were funded by money linked to slavery.

Yale thus finds itself drawn into the fast-growing debate in America over whether the government as well as corporations and other institutions with slavery in their histories should apologise to the descendants of those held in bondage in the 18th and 19th centuries and offer them financial compensation.

America is threatening to boycott a UN conference on fighting racism that begins in Durban, South Africa, on 31 August, partly because it opposes any references in a final statement to making any such formal apology or to reparations for African Americans whose ancestors were slaves. It also objects to paragraphs criticising Israel and linking Zionism to racism.

As the first American university to open a department dedicated to studying the abolitionist movement, Yale might have thought itself immune to criticism of its role in the history of slavery. But the new article, "Yale, Slavery and Abolition", suggests that it has much in its past to confront.

Eight of Yale's 12 residential buildings are named after former slave owners. One of its colleges bares the name of John Calhoun, a vice-president who fought to preserve slavery through the early 19th century. Some of the first scholarships offered by Yale were funded by revenue from a slave plantation owned by Bishop George Berkeley. There is a Berkeley college, too.

Antony Dugdale, one of the students who wrote the article – it is on the internet at www.yaleslavery.org – said Yale had a duty to respond to its findings. "Universities are first and foremost supposed to stand up for the truth," he said. "But there's been a real absence of any real discussion or real scholarship on the history of universities themselves, or their role, with regard to slavery."

The university, which is in New Haven, Connecticut, issued statements arguing that it was hardly alone among America's oldest institutions with skeletons dating back to the country's slave-owning past. Last year, for instance, Connecticut's main newspaper and the oldest in the US, The Hartford Courant, was forced to apologise for taking revenue over many decades from small-ads placed in it by slave-owners. Helaine Klasky, Yale's spokeswoman, said: "Today, we regret and renounce these evils and seek, through scholarship and communication, to better understand them, but we cannot undo them."

The article calls on Yale to convene a conference of all universities with histories going back to the slave-owning period to consider what part they played in supporting the slave culture in America.

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Well?

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Sp00ky said: hmmm intersting. US makes a comment about Zimbabwe. There are no amercians there, and they have no direct interest there. There are also threatening snaction on Zimbabwe.

/me smells blatent hidden agenda


This is prolly down to the strong alliance that Mugabe has with Fidel Castro. Just a guess, but it smells like a retaliation for keeping bad company.

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I didn't know that something hidden could be blatant.

Have fun.

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I didn't know that something hidden could be blatant.


pedant

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Under Mugabes' rule, literacy has risen to 85%, this makes it one of the highest achievers in educational reform. The figures were tallied from gross population, this means that the 15% left over could be under the accepted Read/Write age of 5yrs old.
Pretty impressive, I still do not like the fucker, but you have to give him some credit.

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pedant




sexy



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sexy


stop talking dirty...you'll get me wet you little bitch!

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Under Mugabes' rule, literacy has risen to 85%, this makes it one of the highest achievers in educational reform. The figures were tallied from gross population, this means that the 15% left over could be under the accepted Read/Write age of 5yrs old.
Pretty impressive, I still do not like the fucker, but you have to give him some credit.



Where on earth did you get those figures? From what I saw when I travelled in Zimbabwe, the above is blatantly wrong.


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Where on earth did you get those figures? From what I saw when I travelled in Zimbabwe, the above is blatantly wrong.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wo...4000/744174.stm


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Nog 'n bliksems se Suid Afrikaaner, ek weet hoe fokkin dom hulle is ook. Maar will efens 'n bietjie lig op die arme mense le.

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I have recieved a vocal request from Sp00ky to translate,:

Nog 'n bliksems se Suid Afrikaaner,(another bloody SA) ek weet hoe fokkin dom hulle is ook.( I also know how fucking stupid they are) Maar will efens 'n bietjie lig op die arme mense le.(but wanted to shed a little sunshine on the poor people)

Happy Sp00ky???

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we could kill everyone in america that can't read and our average would be 100%.

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we could kill everyone in america that can't read and our average would be 100%.




But your population would be 10



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Happy Sp00ky???


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First of all, America always sticks it's nose in other country's business.
Second of all, I don't think me, or the current government needs to appoligise for something we had no part in. Slavery was over a hundred years ago. I had nothing to do with it, the people who run the country now had nothing to do with it. Get over it already!!

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America always sticks it's nose in other country's business.


not unless it has a direct self interst I think you will find. Or at least it is bound too by treaty eg NATO.

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But your population would be 10



Hahaha.


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/me smells blatent hidden agenda.
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Me too.

There are lots of untapped resources in America...you know how it is...we find some reason to be interested in the area and then we move in to protect that interest.

That's pretty much how we "acquired" Texas and Hawaii...

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quote:
Originally posted by Spooky:
Since when have America cared about anything that does not affect their national interest?

/me smells blatent hidden agenda.





Mike Wallace and the gang recently ran an expose on the Veterans in Zimbabwe for the second time. Any time Mike Wallace says "Jump" the President has to say, "How High?"




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