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How much?

World History is taught in US schools? I mean given that US History is no more than what? 300 years? What other things are taught?

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Originally posted by Spooky:
World History is taught in US schools? I mean given that US History is no more than what? 300 years? What other things are taught?

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Schools in the United States usually require a full year of World History in high school (usually in the early part of high school...like your limey A-Levels, or something like that). I took a full year of World History and a full year of U.S. History. I didn't learn a single thing in either class. It wasn't until I began reading more lit. that I got interested in history simply to gain context. This is how I teach my students both lit. and history now...I'm sly.

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Have any of the other Americans out there ever been to England. If you have did you notice that 80% of the population look the same. That is because of hundreds of years of dipping into the same gene pool

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Originally posted by Dead_Inside:
When did your schools teach you about George III and the American revolution?

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I have no idea, I am not American.

But, anyway, on a somewhat related note, I once heard that in Germany, when they teach about WW2, the holocaust is not mentioned. I can see why, but find it distressing should it be true.

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Originally posted by MuffyTheVampyreLayer:
I once heard that in Germany, when they teach about WW2, the holocaust is not mentioned. I can see why, but find it distressing should it be true.

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Denial is one thing, omitting to tell the full story another.

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I took world histroy the year before last. it really was a waste of time, i can't remember anything from it and that's mainly because i have no use for it.

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Originally posted by Spooky:
no not at all. Just curious thats all.

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my high school history class dealt mainly with european and world events, as canadian history is a railroad and a revolt in manitoba. oh, and women's sufferage.

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British schools are pretty difficult to compare here - as schooling is optional after aged 16 (90% go on to further Ed).

Also subject study is limited after 16 to a maximum of 4 optional specialist topics (5 if you're REALLY brave - or you can do vocational based studies).

But briefly - History education is as follows:

Primary Schooling: Castles, Kings and such! (pre 1700's or around that) European as well as British.

Secondary schooling (12-14): same as above

G.C.S.E schooling (14-16): 1830 - present in British and European

AS/A2Level (16-18 - optional): Choices of early modern 1450-1650 or 1830 to present(include European and Russian)
Also if you choose to study Politics at AS/A2 level you get a 50/50 look at American and European politics.

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I hope those weren't defintions sonja.

Spooky excels at being pedantic.

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There is a big flap in Japan right now because of some textbooks that don't mention some of the atrocities committed by the Japanese in WWII, including the sexual enslavement of women and forced labor of men. This is in the same vein of denial versus telling the whole story.

I am murky on the details, but I think there are a few different books that schools can use to teach from and this is but one (new) option. I think the main teacher's unions have rejected it though and refused to use it.

As for American History, we I don't remember the specifics of what I was taught in High School. I remember more world history than American. US history is mostly the Revolution, the Civil War, the Westward expansion, then a decade by decade tromp through the last century.

I found that Zinn's People's History of the United States to be a fascinating read. I encourage everyone to pick up a copy and read it for just a few minutes. I bet you'll want to finish it.

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I hope those weren't defintions sonja.
Spooky excels at being pedantic.

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Originally posted by sonja:
Primary Schooling: Castles, Kings and such! (pre 1700's or around that) European as well as British.

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oooh i had a ruler with all the kings and queens on and their dates and stuff... i don't remember any of them

from my gcse's i remember learning about WWII and things like the wall st crash.
i remember learning a lot about slavery and apartheid in america and south africa aswell. woo yesh, but that had a lot to do with the english classes too.

i don't remember ever learning much about asian history though...


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oooh i had a ruler with all the kings and queens on and their dates and stuff... i don't remember any of them

from my gcse's i remember learning about WWII and things like the wall st crash.
i remember learning a lot about slavery and apartheid in america and south africa aswell. woo yesh, but that had a lot to do with the english classes too.
i don't remember ever learning much about asian history though...

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I thought that the "US" was just a euphemism for "The World".

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/me sings "we are the world"

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I took a year of World History. My teacher couldn't get off the Roman Empire. Constantinople this, constantinople that...

I remember one of my buddies asking a question. She told him that he didn't want to know the answer. I asked a question and she assigned me a research project on the subject.

Of course, she was hugely pregnant at the time, so maybe it was hormonal rather than incompetence.

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Actually a friend of mine was talking to some German girls who moved here. They said that they weren't taught about the holocaust, but that its slowly being integrated into the textbooks and such. They have lots of rules in Germany about what you can say about it and such, like you can't wear a swastika. Understandably, its a very touch subject

There was a world history course at my high school but it was an option to take. I did take it, but my teacher spent most of the time gossiping about the principal. Ah well.

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Anyway, you should all have dropped history and taken extra physics and maths.



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World History, World Geography, U.S. History, then Government.


All required in high school here in TX.


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i thought that the world started in 1776... hmmm I wonder why the Indians decided to live on the reservations they just wanted to i guess. The US civil war was not abotu slavery... Columbus is a god he never killed Native Americans when he landed at Plymouth Rock. Oh and all asian americans on the west coast during WWII were spys.


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