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morgana
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there's not alot of life in this forum right now, so let's discuss some artists. i pick tori amos. what do you think of her? honestly, if you hate her, let me hear why. but i must let you know from the getgo that i'm totally biased in her favor. i think i love her so much because she's not afraid to do what she really wants to do. and for that she's musically an aquired taste. most of her songs are un-radio friendly and full of "tori-isms" that drive her fans insane trying to decipher them. but her courage to step forward and sing from her heart, you have to admire that. "me and a gun", an a capella story of her own rape, helped unlock the door for thousands of girls who felt too afraid, ashamed, and embarrased to approach their own assaults. and she's very much in touch with her fans. she's dedicated to meeting as many as she can, sends hundreds of personally written letters a year, holds meet and greets before and after 99% of her shows, and even helped start a rape counselling hotline for them because she felt so bad that she couldn't help each and every one of them.

and those lyrics...

"so i want to kill this waitress...she's worked here a year longer than i...if i did it fast, it would be an act of kindness..."


"he said "you're really an ugly girl, but i like the way you play"...and i thanked him...can you believe that?...sick!...holding on to his picture...dressing up every day...i want to smash their faces...those beautiful boys...those christian boys...so you can make me cum, does that make you jesus?"

if you've never heard of her, or have heard a song or two and didn't quite like the taste of them, please look these up on napster, and tell me what you think...

precious things
leather
iieee
doughnut song
silent all these years

...well, what are you doing lurking?! discuss!



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Roshigoth
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Registered: Aug 2000
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I love Tori.. and it's your fault, too. Bitch.

Winter got me hooked, a bunch of her others kept me interested.

For some reason, even though I don't understand it, Mr. Zebra has become one of my favorites. No clue, I just like it.

She's got a beautiful voice. And from what I can tell from bootleg mp3s and, of course, the live cd from To Venus and Back, she totally rocks live.. (wish I could catch a concert...)

So yeah, her music is cool. I dunno about the "acquired taste" bit, seeing as how I latched on to her from the first song I heard... But maybe that's just my weird taste in music anyway.

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Paint CHiPs
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quote:
Originally posted by morgana:
i pick tori amos. what do you think of her? honestly, if you hate her, let me hear why. but i must let you know from the getgo that i'm totally biased in her favor. i think i love her so much because she's not afraid to do what she really wants to do. and for that she's musically an aquired taste. most of her songs are un-radio friendly and full of "tori-isms" that drive her fans insane trying to decipher them. but her courage to step forward and sing from her heart, you have to admire that. "me and a gun", an a capella story of her own rape, helped unlock the door for thousands of girls who felt too afraid, ashamed, and embarrased to approach their own assaults. and she's very much in touch with her fans. she's dedicated to meeting as many as she can, sends hundreds of personally written letters a year, holds meet and greets before and after 99% of her shows, and even helped start a rape counselling hotline for them because she felt so bad that she couldn't help each and every one of them.





Okay.

I will say this, I respect Tori Amos. I agree with you 100% on her connectivity to her fans, the issues she discusses, she does have some fantastic skills to be sure.

Karen will be 100% with you BTW, so I've had this arguement before. She is a Tori nut.

My personal view of her, and keep in mind that I am a sucker for hooks, is that I agree that she is an acquired taste. I own two of her albums, Little Earthquakes and Under the Pink, and am fond with them both, though the latter is my favorite (though karen contests that is her worst album). I have heard pretty much every Tori song because of karen, and have to say that the album, radio friendly ones are the ones I prefer. Mostly because they are the ones with the great hooks (yeah, fuck you, I'm no purist), and hooks that let her show off her great voice and abilities. My general criticism of her in her live bootlegs and some of her other stuff is that she seems far too impressed with the power of her own voice. Granted, she has a great voice, but she'll be in a song, and then spend 3 minutes basically just wailing and occassionally banging on a piano. That is what bugs me. Maybe that's hard to convey, surely a matter of taste, but I need more musicianship, more variety, more "hooks", then just a woman going "AAAAAAWWWWOOOOOAAAAAAA OOOOOWAAAAAAAA" and banging on a piano. Things like "rolling" and other vocal game-playing should only be used in moderation, IMO, and when taken too far can really ruin a tune for me.

That is, of course, a subjective thing, and when she is playing just regular songs, like all of Under the Pink, I quite like her stuff.

And the people that only know her from like God, Little Earthquakes, Under the Pink, and Boys for Pele probably won't know what I'm talking about. Those are solid albums for the most part. But when dealing with real Tori fans, you get into all the bootlegs, live albums, all that shite, and that's the stuff I don't like. That's when it becomes an acquired taste. And I can't really make that leap from her solid albums to all the rest, when she basically spends most of her time jamming with herself.

My two cents anyway. I hold the same criticism against karen in regards to Jeff Buckley as well. Just not my bag, I guess.

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Dead_Inside
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Never been a fan. I also admit to not knowing a tremendous amount of her work.

I just dont like her style all that much. Her voice inflections overide the music too much in my mind. Maybe I just need to listen to more stuff.

The weird thing is that, to me, the voice is the best instrument and her range is pretty good. She is just always out of tune to me.

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DevilMoon
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I have a theory. Every girl likes Tori Amos.

Anyway I will admit to owning the God single, I do like that song. And she seems like she be cool to have had as an art teacher or something, but she's nutty as hell.

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Originally posted by Dead_Inside:
I just dont like her style all that much. Her voice inflections overide the music too much in my mind.


Agreed.

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Datura
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Most of my female friends do not like Tori actually...

*Senorita* and I became friends in high school because of our shared interest in Tori... she is still my favorite artist (my alias comes from a song on her last album actually). I had 24+ of her cd's... I went to her last show in Toronto (the VIP show) where I almost met her..
My first webpage was devoted to Tori.. I won't get into why I like her etc. because this post will become too long... but I will post my fav Tori songs:

Cooling
Upside Down
Blue Skies (i have both cd's but I esp. like the BT liquid cd)
Raspberry Swirl
Tear In Your Hand

demmit there are too many... perhaps I will list why I like her etc. some other time..


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Chantrea
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I adore her.

Winter and Precious Things are my faves. Her cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit is beautiful also.

I happen to like the inflections. They're one of the things you either love or hate. I love em.

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karen
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I agree that the voice is the best musical instrument there is. I am the type who listens to music for the vocals and lyrics, rather than the music itself. Secondly, the piano is my favourite regular instrument.
Her voice, inflections, style, and lyrics are fabulous... included in her style is the way she puts her albums/shows together. Take boys for pele for instance(which I did a paper on in college). Boys for Pele was written in novel form, although the actual story is fairly veiled... you know it's there.
Im more of a B-side person myself. I dont care for most of the radio play singles. They kind of bore me.
My favourites by her:
cooling
precious things
do it again(steely dan cover)
famous blue raincoat(cohen cover)
never seen blue
tear in your hand
anastasia
and
little amsterdam

Tori has a wonderful way of doing cover songs. I havent heard any that I dont like.


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Rach
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I used to dislike her. Then I realized that I only disliked her fans who thought they were "deep" when they wrote horrible (in my opinion) poetry that they claim she inspried. I spent too much time on the net then.

Tori Amos rocks. She's beautiful. She's in her own little world, and she's having a great time in it. She hypnotizes me.

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ItsJustLogan
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i'm just sad she wont be doing a full tour when the new album comes out. she's going to be dead before i'll ever have a chance to see her. or i will be, either way.

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