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I'd say purpose is a direction we move in, the destination and journey of no import to any but ourselves.

Or not.

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How about this?

Purpose is the compass of our experience.

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quote:
Originally posted by Goatboy:
How about this?

Purpose is the compass of our experience.




Does the type of purpose then depend on where we have been as well as where we are going? How does this type of purpose relate to questions of the necessity or utility of purpose?

Is this different from direction and guidance/ guidelines? Is morality involved?

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quote:
Originally posted by Nutrimentia:
Does the type of purpose then depend on where we have been as well as where we are going?


I would say that direction is defined by where we have been. Are you asking if the destination affects the journey?

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How does this type of purpose relate to questions of the necessity or utility of purpose?


I would say there is a layer to purpose. The underlying foundation of which would be survival, followed by procreation, followed by protection of progeny (i.e. genetic imperative). The question of personal aspirations would be a minor factor.

Without the foundation purpose (definition for existence) - whatever it might be, I think lassitude would either kill us in a less kind society or cause our lives to be meaningless in the one we have (perhaps a reason for suicide?).

I think purpose such as personal ambition is a recent manifestation of sentience and society. Of some small meaning now, but which will grow massively as civilisation progresses.

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Is this different from direction and guidance/ guidelines? Is morality involved?


I need to think about that more.

I need to think about his all a lot more.




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Is there really a purpose? Or, for clarification, is there a single purpose in our lives that we must (or at least should) fulfill? Or is our life simply a wandering search for a purpose? Or, perhaps, a series of smaller purposes strung together over a lifetime, some fulfilled, some not.

Or perhaps life is without purpose, and we are adrift in a sea of chaos, with no true meaning or order to it all.

Does it even matter? If our lives have a purpose, chances are we will find and fulfill them. Sometimes, we probably don't know that we've done so. Do we really need a purpose? Is it not enough to seek peace or contentment within ourselves, making no real impact in the world or the people around us? Perhaps that may even be a purpose.

I don't know. But this got my mind rambling. I like that. Thank you.

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There is a very clear purpose. the main hub of humanity fails to recognize it, simply.

first, we must build huge starships, a colony which can travel in space and sustain itself for long periods of time.

we must find new places in the galaxy to live.

we must build a human hive brain, and expand its reach to the far corners of the universe.

we must become all powerful. we must become God, so we may create new worlds, and crush their inhabitants like the bugs that they are.

thats our purpose. when we have achived it we win, and we can retire and watch the pulchritude that is the worls we now contorl.

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"Purpose" is that which drives to be all that we can; to push the limits of being "human" to edge of the envelope and beyond.

Purpose equates to motive force, and that must comefrom within. The only discipline is self-discipline, and no one can live life for another.

Everything comes from the self: if you doubt that, then look at all of the lef-loathers in this world and see where they are in their lives.

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Well, melon pretty much rendered this discussion moot by answering all the questions, but for the sake of discussion, let's set that aside for a bit.

Regarding the past: Of course I think purpose relates to the past in a way. Minimally one uses past experience to determine if they have accomplished their purpose or are on track to do so.

But most of the responses here seem to equate purpose with meaning. I think purpose is different, I think.... A person can have meaning in life but wander without a purpose. Or am I wrong?

Goat> attributing purpose such as personal ambition to modern (or recent) society begs the question. You treat purpose as meaning or responsibility or necessity in the abstract. But then you suggest that personal motivation is a modern cultural artifact. Are you suggesting that purpose is part of cultural identity? I like the idea that purpose is culturally enforced or influenced, and I think I may accept that it is part of identity as well. Without purpose, culture says you are unfulfilled, incomplete.

Rosh> I think you and I are the same page. Lots of questions, a few ideas about answers, but still far from resolution

RW> People can accomplish stuff without purpose. Or are they just oblivious to their purpose then? I want to say more, but trivia is supposed to be starting.


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