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I'm a Cowboy Baby by melesse - 01/10/01 - 20:47:00



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Datura
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I disagree. I used to respect the police... I used to feel safe knowing that if I were in any danger, that they would come and protect me. That was, until a few of them (fucking assholes) beat my brother. My brother isn't very strong, there is no way that he could ever put up a fight, but they pushed him and put his face right into the gravel and beat him...
Over holidays as my parents and I were driving home from having a nice day shopping downtown Toronto we noticed that the road was blocked off to get home.. and there was a young cop sitting in his cruiser laughing away with a guy from the subdivision where his cruiser was parked. The cop wouldn't get his lazy ass out of his cruiser to tell anyone what was going on, how long the road block would be, if the other road to get home was open or not etc. he just kept socializing, and laughing... meanwhile there was a huge line up of cars packed w/ confused drivers... my dad wanted to know what was going on so he asked if we could get through by taking the other road.. the cop said 'yeah probably' then kept talking to his buddy.. then my dad said 'you should let people know what's going on'.. then the cop snorted at him. My dad got back into the car and drove off. I glanced behind me as we drove away and saw the cop giving us the finger with his arm waving high outside of his cruiser window.. so much for our sweet, little protectors.
Too many young cops are cocky bastards these days. They put on their uniforms and think that they are 'the shit'. Fucking lame.
Do I feel protected anymore? No. Hell, they even hurt my own brother. Are they informative? Nope.. that asshole couldn't even get out of his fucking cruiser to notify ppl of the hold up.. too cold for his lil' badge I guess.
So, as the great Wally Pleasant sings "I hate cops."

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Emerald
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Well, I personally agree wholeheartedly with you melesse.

Too bad that Datura feels the way she does because of a handful of assholes. I wonder WHY your brother was even on the 'bad side' of the law? Doesn't matter. I've met those kind too. There are always a few in EVERY group that mess up the reputation of the WHOLE. Too bad. We still need law and we still need enforcers.

I've been riding with 40 yr old people that still have that lame attitude toward 'cops'. It's a real turn-off to me to hear someone say 'Ooo, cop at 11 O'clock' in a paranoid voice. Sheeesh. If you are not breaking the law, why do you slow down, or even blink???? Silly people.

I've taught my kids to respect all authority, including the police. When we drive down the road, even my 16yr old daughter will wave at them and smile. Police are here to 'serve and protect', and I don't care what any ONE person says, MOST law enforcement (especially on the street) want to do their jobs and HELP us stay safe.

You go after your goal of becoming a part of our law enforcement, meleese. Don't let anyone discourage you. We need all the 'good guys' we can get in this world.



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"the cops used to watch out for the people. now they just watch the people."

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Yeah, I'm gonna do it. You're white, right? Try living in a white neighborhood when your skin is brown. I'm constantly harassed by the motherfucking police. I don't slow down or anything when they start to roll up on me. Why? I'm not doing anything illegal. Yet, I still have to live in fear. Let me tell you just ONE story of an encounter I had with police. This is the story of an encounter I had when I was eight years old. That's right, I was only an 8 year old boy. I was riding my bike down the street with some of my friends. There was a helmet law and I was wearing mine (I still do to this day...not because of the fucking law though). Nonetheless, this cop rolls up on us. We're a bunch of kids ranging in age from 6-10. He turns on his lights and sirens and we freak out. But of course, he won't hurt us! We were taught in school that the cops are there to help us and protect us if we ever get into a jam. Too bad that was all a fucking lie. Next thing I know, my friends and I are in handcuffs while he and his partner tell us to stay in school or get used to the new jewelry. Sure, that was one set of cops. But I have never been in a situation with a cop in which I wasn't treated like a criminal. So, let's just say, I hate every motherfucking cop I've ever met. But now, I have to go to a meeting with a bunch of teachers to figure out how we can best teach our students. I hate the campus cop too.

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.................Next thing I know, my friends and I are in handcuffs while he and his partner tell us to stay in school or get used to the new jewelry..


So. Why WEREN'T you in school??? Were you skipping out that day with all your lil friends? Come on, flo...fess up!

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.................Sure, that was one set of cops. But I have never been in a situation with a cop in which I wasn't treated like a criminal. So, let's just say, I hate every motherfucking cop I've ever met.


*shines bright light in flocat's face*
In WHICH of these illeged situations with cops had you NOT just finished committing a felony? Hmmmm? Hmmmm????



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In all seriousness people....

If you experience a situation where these 'servants of the people' are not doing their jobs, then you should do something about it! Don't just sit back and whine about it. Get that cop's name and badge number and turn them in!!!! Come on, flocat....sheesh. You ARE a teacher, right? Write a letter. Stand up for justice.

If everyone would just do their little part, we'd have LESS of the bad cops.

I still believe the MAJORITY of police are GOOD GUYS!!!! It's just the very few assholes we ever hear about.


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Originally posted by Emerald:
In all seriousness people....

If you experience a situation where these 'servants of the people' are not doing their jobs, then you should do something about it! Don't just sit back and whine about it. Get that cop's name and badge number and turn them in!!!! Come on, flocat....sheesh. You ARE a teacher, right? Write a letter. Stand up for justice.

If everyone would just do their little part, we'd have LESS of the bad cops.

I still believe the MAJORITY of police are GOOD GUYS!!!! It's just the very few assholes we ever hear about.





In all honesty Em, I would do something if I really could. The last time I tried something, I was nearly beaten to death. There was a rally against police brutality in which I participated and the police started with the rubber bullets, etc. I have never done anything that would warrant such behaviour from these animals. You give a guy a badge and a gun and some power and he will abuse it. I have tried to do things Em. I really have. The problem is that the system DOES NOT work. This is NOT the land of the free. It is not as easy as you are saying. If it were, you would hear less about this. Do you think that the pig who pulled me over in the daytime for having a liscence plate light that didn't work would have freely given me his badge #? No. He was pulling me over because I was the wrong color in the neighborhood.

"Searchin' my car
Lookin' for tha product
Thinkin' every nigga is selling narcotics"
-NWA "Fuck the Police"

Simply because they are servants of the people does not mean that they will act as such. Just look at the politricks we have running this government. Special interests and big money run this nation and that is not right. The police are merely the enforcers of this big money whore we know as the United States.

And for the record, I was playing with my friends on a Saturday. And if I wasn't in school, it was because I knew more than my teacher...don't even get me started on incompetent teachers in Los Angeles. I've never committed a felony, my fingerprints are on file with the FBI to prove it (we have to do that as teachers...funny that teachers get treated just as bad as criminals huh?).



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Like I said, this is what I have to look forward to for wanting to help people, and trying to do what I can to leave the world a little better then what I found it.

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Melesse, I think it's cool that you want to be a cop. Honestly I am always on the lookout for cops, but it's because I was harrased as a teenager by the local police and it makes you a little more on your toes. I have experienced more than one cop with an attitude but I have also known some great cops. Like the one that sat with my mom at my grandma's house until the funeral home came to pick up her mother. He couldn't have been nicer to my mom. I think that, besides helping people, you becoming a cop and being a good guy will be doing your part to dispel the predjudices.

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unfortunately, here, the majority of the police force aren't "good guys". i've met most of them, through the hospital or being in various substations. these are then men that i've grown to hate. these are the men that pulled over my black friend as we were driving home through a rich white neighborhood (there are no through streets in this city, everything is dead ends and subdivisions), said "where you comin' from boy, there ain't no niggers livin' here", saw me (the white kid) sitting in the passenger seat, quickly apologized and went back to his car. these are the people who beat my teacher as he stood at a wage rally with his black teacher's union. these are the men that stand in the emergency room handicapped door and laugh at the people in wheelchairs who's way they are blocking. there are 4 good guy's i've met thus far, and in that environment i doubt they will last long.

this is the way things are here, simply. i sincerely hope that this is only my city (though i know, in that little logical crevice of my mind, it isn't) and that these dirty pigs never infect yours.

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I had one experience that was merely inefficient and slightly disrespectful, but the others have all been positive.

In the "bad" case, I was in my new town, and not used to the way that streets went. I'd never, ever in my life encountered a three-way street with multiple sets of lights for each direction (as in, it takes you two traffic lights to get through in each direction). I was confused, and accidently ran a red light (there was no other traffic). The cop pulled me over, and I asked what I had done. He rolled his eyes, and said I'd run a red light. Given that my license plate was from another state, it should have been evident that I probably knew jack-shit about the laws. I said I didn't understand, and could he explain how the light system worked at that intersection so I wouldn't do it again. He refused, and wrote me a ticket. The ticket took over 1/2 hour to process. When I went in to pay my ticket, I did tell what had happened, and said that I felt like the enforcers of the law should also be able to explain the law. The desk clerk agreed, and said she'd make a note of it to his superior (my "arresting officer" was a campus cop in training).

The good situations have been highly positive. In the first, I used to work the night shift at my school's library, then I'd stay for several hours to work in the computer lab on my papers.Most nights, I got out of there around 3 or 4 am, and walked home to catch a few hours of sleep before my class schedule began again in the morning. The walk home was a good 2 miles, and I'd walk it briskly, sometimes jog it, for exercise. The coats I wore were very light, or else I'd wear no coat at all. I was 1/2 mile away from my house when a cop pulled up alongside me, and asked if I'd had car trouble, and if he could radio someone for help. I told him the situation, and he said that I should be careful walking, and that he'd make sure that whoever was on duty would patrol that stretch of street (it was pretty dark) periodically during the early a.m. hours. Wow.

In the second case, I was brought in as a possible witness to an attempted murder committed by a student of mine against his ex-girlfriend. Long story there (quick summary: an office mate heard me say that I knew the kid, since he was my student, and mistook the information to say that I knew he was going to hurt her. the girl was her student, and rather than confirm the info with me, she told the girl. thus, I got a call from the police.).

I was not too happy to go in for questioning, since I was afraid that I might be booked as an accessory. Luckily, I called our family lawyers, and they told me how to handle myself, since I knew nothing about the incident until it appeared in the paper. The sergeant who questioned me said immediately that I was cleared of everything, and asked what all I was doing at the university. I explained that I wrote fiction and nonfiction, and that I was interested in crime and mystery writing. He gave me several story leads, and said he could hook me up with the local prisons (we have tons of prisons around here). He took the time to tell me several of the stories in great detail, gave me his card and his private extension number, and said to call if I wanted to be hooked up. That, in my book, is fucking awesome.

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Every day I hear these ignorant, dumb assholes talk about how the police are evil, and how they constantly are harrassing the minorities . . . I just want to rip their stupid heads off. People are always being babies when the cops do do their job, and then bitch when the cops don't.

There's just no winning if you're a boy in blue.

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