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euphorbia
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Question Do you think...

every human should be given certain basic rights?
And how far should we take that?

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isn't freedom from discrimination part of justice?

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quote:
Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
isn't freedom from discrimination part of justice?


Presumably, U4B refers to having a justice system (where, for example, you might challenge discrimination, etc, as opposed to there being no discrimination full stop)

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euphorbia
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quote:
Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
isn't freedom from discrimination part of justice?


partly, however things like hate crimes laws sometimes end up with unjust outcomes....I put those up there like that for a reason, which I will tend to later.

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I can't imagine living in a place without at least 3 of the 4. On second thought, my idea of justice may not be the same as someone else's. I'd have to say freedom of speech. At least then, you could really tell someone what you thought of them.

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my preferred definition of justice is "Conformity to truth, fact, or sound reason", and i'll choose that.

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how the fuck do I do a poll?

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euphorbia
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quote:
Originally posted by Spooky
how the fuck do I do a poll?


check the box for "Poll" before you submit and it will bring you to the page for making the poll.

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Glaistig
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The founding fathers didn't set a poll as to which "god given rights" that Americans should be entitled to.

Freedom of speech is necessary even now to debate these things.

Freedom from discrimination is something that everyone should be entitled to, without option.

Justice is the outcome when all civil rights of all people are respected and defended.


PS Poll is very cool option! (as long as we don't get carried away)

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quote:
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check the box for "Poll" before you submit and it will bring you to the page for making the poll.


I see no 'poll' option.

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wait..it has to be in a New Topic, it is after you make your post before the submit button where you are given that option.

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quote:
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It seems that option has been taken away


fascists!

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after the "Attach a file" option

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quote:
Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
isn't freedom from discrimination part of justice?

There is such thing as institutional discrimination

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many people think gay people are institutionally discriminated against

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Mordecai
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None of you should have rights, you are all truly destined simply to be my slaves. Kneel.

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