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Feral Automaton
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Nsc-68

This is interesting.

NSC-68

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Spooky
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quote:
Compulsion is the negation of freedom, except when it is used to enforce the rights common to all.


or: 'Compulsion is the negation of freedom except when it is compulsion.'

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Indigo
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NSC 68 is old news, my friend.

it's also a broad effing topic.

what sort of comment do you want here? are you looking for the history behind and influences of NSC 68? criticism of containment?

or just for people to read and say, hmmm...

what do you want here?

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quote:
or: 'Compulsion is the negation of freedom except when it is compulsion.'


Re that, spooky, not quite. what the doc is saying is that we are obligated to defend the common rights which may take compulsion. in this case, compulsion is actually being used to protect freedom in a broader sense so it is not the negation of freedom.

I think Al. Schweitzer said
"I am life that wills to live, in the midst of life that wills to live. The mysterious fact of my will to live is that I live in sympathetic concern with all the other wills to live. The essence of evil is to destroy life, harm life, hamper the development of life"

people have to live together in sympathetic concern with one another and when they refuse to do so in such a way that it harms life, it is evil. at that point, it has to be blocked.

It goes back to the classic lib phil of JS Mill _ON LIberty_: I'm free so long as my freedom doesn't interfere with other people's ability to be free, roughly translated. forgive me it's been a LONG assed time. Point is, TO live together, we have to live in sympathetic concern with one another. It becomes part of being free in a society of free people. When people (or states) refuse to live within certain confinse that allows a free society to operate, they must be compelled to be otherwise not with the goal of negating freedom, but with the goal of INCREASING freedom overall.

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