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American sports equivalents???
as i was wandering around my mind and the net this morning i came to thinking which NHL, NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS teams are the best?
which team from each sport is the equivalent to Manchester United, basically meaning which teams dominate sports in the U.S.? which teams would be the equivalents to Arsenal, Leeds, Liverpool and Chelsea (note yhat i left out Spurs).
this all came about because i was looking to buy a cap, but wasn't quite sure which one to get, i used to like the LA kings, for NHL, Chicago Bears for the NFL(i remember superbowl 20, and the refridgerator) and the Chicago bulls/Seatlle sonics for NBA. i have no local team so i was trying to decide where my alegiance should lie.......
can you help me????/
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I only really follow the NHL, and well no one is showing any clear dominance at the moment, Detroit leads in points, but the Avs despite their shaky start are showing great playing lately, Sharks aren't slacking this year, I understand even the blackhawks are playing well at least at home, but we haven't even hit halfway in the season yet so it's still pretty open.
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are there any teams that have dominated in the last five years, like Man u has in football here?
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Re: American sports equivalents???
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(note yhat i left out Spurs).
wanna place a wager on the semi-final?
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wanna place a wager on the semi-final?
isnt it a foregone conclusion? i don't even know if it worth considering. when was the last time spurs beat chelsea? come UJ answer that for me.
and , no is my answer, im saving to go see the merkins.
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are there any teams that have dominated in the last five years, like Man u has in football here?
Not in the NHL. I mean there are teams that have been good teams, something to be reckoned for a while, but no one has had clear domination. Makes the sport exciting.
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are there any teams that have dominated in the last five years, like Man u has in football here?
Going from memory, when I actually had time to watch sports...
The Chicago Bulls were good in the NBA for many years (though I think 4 was the most championships they won in a row, or in 5 or 6 years at least - not sure about that though).
I know that The Detroit Red Wings used to dominate the NHL (for possibly 2 or 3 years I think) then Dallas Stars did the same thing...though it sounds like Detroit is doing well this year too.
As far as baseball...I think it was the yankees(?) who have won the past few years.
Again, I claim no absolute knowledge of this, and I am grasping at straws here, but I hope that some of that info is correct....
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OK, I'll help you out with this one.......
Baseball: New York Yankees. Not even close. Winners of 4 out of the last 6 World Series(and runners up this year). 26 Championships in team history.
Basketball (NBA) - The Los Angeles Lakers are a budding dynasty at the moment. They won the past two Championships and they are smacking everyone else around this year again. As long as they have the two best players in the league (Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant), they will be at the top of the league for years to come. The Chicago Bulls were this team in the 90's, but Michael Jordan retired 14 times and now plays on a different team as an old man (for an athlete). In the History of Basketball, The Boston Celtics have won 16 Championships, followed by the Lakers at 13. Noone else is even close.
Hockey (NHL)- The sport I know least. I do know that the Detroit Red Wings and Colorado Avalanche have been the two consistently good teams in recent years. Somehow the New Jersey Devils snuck in to win a couple Stanley Cups in between years of sucking. The Montreal Canadiens have won the most Stanley Cups in history, 24.
Football (NFL) - Due to salary restrictions, it is nearly impossible for one team to dominate year in and year out. The St. Louis Rams have been the best team over the past few years, but when the contracts of their star players run out, they will all probably leave anyway. In the 60's, the Green Bay Packers dominated. In the 70's, it was the Pittsburgh Steelers. In the 80's, it was the San Francisco 49er's. In the 90's, it was the Dallas Cowboys. That era of football is probably over.
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Re: American sports equivalents???
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Originally posted by prozacjones
as i was wandering around my mind and the net this morning i came to thinking which NHL, NFL, NBA, MLB, MLS teams are the best?
which team from each sport is the equivalent to Manchester United, basically meaning which teams dominate sports in the U.S.? which teams would be the equivalents to Arsenal, Leeds, Liverpool and Chelsea (note yhat i left out Spurs).
this all came about because i was looking to buy a cap, but wasn't quite sure which one to get, i used to like the LA kings, for NHL, Chicago Bears for the NFL(i remember superbowl 20, and the refridgerator) and the Chicago bulls/Seatlle sonics for NBA. i have no local team so i was trying to decide where my alegiance should lie.......
can you help me????/
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Great question. I'd divide the dominant sports franchises into those which are HISTORICALLY dominant, and those which have RECENTLY been dominant. Man U would fit both categories, and one could argue for Liverpool having roughly equal cache historically, I suppose.
BASEBALL: The New York Yankees are by far the most dominant team historically, with something like two dozen world titles in the last century. They are also quite clearly the dominant team currently, with their streak of three titles ended last year in the last inning of the last game. Their most consistent recent pursuers have been the Atlanta Braves. Both teams are financed by massive local TV revenue that make it next to impossible for most franchises to compete with them. The cap you SHOULD buy is that of the Kansas City Royals.
NFL FOOTBALL: The installation of a rigorous salary cap and revenue sharing have brought an era of near-total parity to the NFL. The last two Super Bowls have both been won by teams that had losing records the previous season. The St. Louis (formerly Los Angeles) Rams are the closest thing to a regularly dominant team at present. There has been no one dominant franchise over the NFL's history; generally, teams have had five-to-six year runs at the top followed by rebuilding periods. The 1990s saw dominant runs by the Dallas Cowboys, Green Bay Packers, and Denver Broncos; the 1980s were the San Francisco Forty-Niners; the 1970s were controlled by the Miami Dolphins and Pittsburgh Steelers, with Dallas as perennial runners-up. The cap you SHOULD buy is that of the Kansas City Chiefs.
NBA BASKETBALL: The Los Angeles Lakers are pretty clearly the best team in basketball these days, with arguably the two best players in the world in their starting five. The San Antonio Spurs and Philadelphia 76ers are solid contending teams. From a historical perspective, the Boston Celtics are the most consistently dominant team in the history of American sports, and the Lakers have been their closest pursuers. If you buy a cap, buy one supporting the University of Kansas Jayhawks; college basketball is more exciting than the NBA anyway.
NHL HOCKEY: The Colorado Avalanche and New Jersey Devils remain the best teams IMO, current records nonwithstanding. This tends to be a sport that runs in cycles similar to the NFL historically, with the Detroit Red Wings the last team to have had a true dynasty. However, the Montreal Canadiens can make a reasonable claim to being the most successful franchise in history in ANY sport; they have won the most league titles of any North American team, the NY Yankees included. The cap you SHOULD buy is that of the New York Rangers.
MLS SOCCER: In an era of parity; this year's cup was won by the league's LEAST successful franchise historically speaking (not that there's a lot of history). Overall, in terms of prestige, DC United is our Manchester United (though DC is in a rebuilding phase at the moment), and Los Angeles Galaxy a perennial contender. From a historical perspective, the best American soccer franchise was, of course, the New York Cosmos of the now-defunct NASL. They were so dominant, and the league so compliant in perpetuating their dominance, that they more or less killed the league. The cap you should, nay, MUST buy is that of the Kansas City Wizards; this is the single item of sports apparel which you MUST own. The Wizards have, over the course of their history, been the worst-uniformed team in the history of global sports; former Glasgow Ranger Richard Gough laughed out loud when he arrived here and saw what we were going to force him to wear.
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Speach, you fiend...if you're gonna post right before me, at least have the courtesy not to say EXACTLY the same things! 
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pj...gimme your address and I'll send ya a yankees cap....
I'm always proud to spread the Yankees cheer!!
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The New York Yankees are by far the most dominant team historically, with something like two dozen world titles in the last century.
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25!!!
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26 now!
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26 now!
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With that 26 titles...They are the winningest sports franchise in N. American history.
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BASEBALL: The cap you SHOULD buy is that of the Kansas City Royals.
NFL FOOTBALL: The cap you SHOULD buy is that of the Kansas City Chiefs.
NBA BASKETBALL: If you buy a cap, buy one supporting the University of Kansas Jayhawks; college basketball is more exciting than the NBA anyway.
NHL HOCKEY: The cap you SHOULD buy is that of the New York Rangers.
MLS SOCCER: The cap you should, nay, MUST buy is that of the Kansas City Wizards; this is the single item of sports apparel which you MUST own. The Wizards have, over the course of their history, been the worst-uniformed team in the history of global sports; .
i can see a pattern here, and without looking at your location i can guess that youre from Kansas? 
thanks, i think i;ll wait for a less biased view. by the way do you play championship manager?
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The Detroit Tigers (MLB) suck (they have won a few Championships in years past though).
But if you want to be stylish and wear the same hat worn by me (and Ice Cube and Magnum PI) then you must buy:
It is not garish (like a Diamondbacks hat, for example)
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(notes you put chelsea up there... ha )
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Re: Re: Re: American sports equivalents???
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i can see a pattern here, and without looking at your location i can guess that youre from Kansas?
Damnit, ya caught me. Was it the New York Rangers one that gave me away?
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thanks, i think i;ll wait for a less biased view. by the way do you play championship manager?
You bet. Went so far as to actually order it shipped from England. LOVE it, even though the designers badly botched the MLS scheduling system and several players' attributes.
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Hey Proz in the US sports we really don't have something quite like that. Other than the Chicago Bulls of the early 90's most teams will only dominate for 1-3 years then it's over and another team or group of teams take over.
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