Registered: Aug 2000
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No, it's not about pussy!

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I dont like any of the choices. Sorry

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Registered: Aug 2000
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My whole intention with this poll was to see how you people compare with the AOL News Poll, that at this minute have Bush rated at:

Excellent - 62% (10,904 votes)

Good - 14% (2520 votes)

Fair - 11% (2080 votes)

Poor - 10% (1980 votes)

Total voted - 17384


And only 3 people have voted so far (I have not). You all are a miserable lot.

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I voted him in the "Not so hot" category.

I applaud him for his decision on stem cell research because he looked his ultra-conservative backers in the eye and said, "Hey, I think it could be a good thing."

But then there's that whole ANWAR drilling, and polution level increasing thing.

Overall I think he has been an alright president so far. Not perfect, but then, no president ever was.

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The Poll might be a little skewed I ahould say...

Even Bush's fans aren't going to want him as dictator for life!

I think that he has probably done a decent job on the foreign policy front but that he will probably have to shine domestically in the recession too. Of course, it takes a long time to succeed or fuck up in internal matters (with legislative due process and so on) so it will be heard to judge anyway just yet.

His personal approach to environmental issues appears to be shameful, but we can also judge that a bit better soon (and I am stressing personal attitude here, whatever the congress and senate think). He appears to care about america a great deal and he also has a very good team around him (although perhaps he needs to stop them from bitching at each other in public; he may already have achieved this, I wouldn't know, as the Powell/Rumsfeld thing wasn't big news over here in the first place).

I think that it is too early; however well he has done in foreign policy, that is often easier to achieve (especially from a postition of strength) than domestic policy success. Here he will have to display some political cunning and I think that it is too early to say whether he has failed or succeeded in this area yet. He didn't make the recession, they just happen anyway, but he needs to plot a careful course out of it. Tax rebates won't be enough, that's for sure (and in fact, inflationary tax policies like those of Nigel Lawson as Chancellor of the Exchequer under Thatcher put us right in the economic shit, so care is needed there) so it will be interesting to see what he does to stimulate the economy in a [i]sustainable[/] way.

Four years is a short time to judge success, let alone one year!

I always find political partisanship rather disappointing (I am going to post a thread on it in politicas soon); parties only exist as a practical measure, they are not always right or always wrong; political afffiliation is a 'best fit' thing rather than a right/wrong thing, in my opinion.

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I think we needed him after the last 8 years and think he is doing a fine job with the mess he got handed. I dont think he should stay in office longer than what is allowed by the constitution.
Though I rooted for McCain in the primary, Im glad Bush won.

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Registered: Mar 2001
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ok i disliked bush more then anyone on this forum i think.

now months later i still dislike bush. on the same token i have a greater respect from him but i still think he is a goofball.

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I voted okay.

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The results of all those public opinion polls, such as the one that billgerat mentioned, are so incredibally skewed these days. False positives, to use the only lingo I know at all.

I think he may very well suffer the same fate as his father.

However, it's been interesting how so many people in politics are so cautious in opposing anything Bush does. Take the Democratic fragmentation over Daschle's tax criticisms. The same thing happened to Gulliani (a man who, before 9/11, was REALLY divicive). In a way, the incredible polling numbers Bush is pulling is fairly irrelevant of who he is or even his specific policies. Al Sharpton could be president right now and be getting positives in the 70th percentile.

Not that Bush doesn't deserve credit. I think he handled the Afghanistan thing as well as anybody could have really. He didn't go gung-ho bombs a-blazin' like many initially feared he would (and undoubtedly some still feel he did), nor did he mire the process in months and months of negotiations, talks, and posturing, like some presidents immediatly preceeding him would have, which would have been unacceptable to the American public. I think he hit just the right note there.

But I think the fervor around 9/11 is going to fade away (and I think it already has started to) and the fact that we all love America and praise its heroes and curse its enemies is going to start buying him less and less free passes. The fact that he is our leader and thus "embodies America" is going to buy less and less currency, and like Smug said, I think more focus is going to be given to his domestic policies. Even there he has done an okay job, but certainly not in a 90% positive range.

Again, look to his father. Really popular war, domestic recession. This Bush will probably get a lot more mileage out of the war than his father did due to the nature of it, but I suspect Bush's salad days are numbered.

So don't believe the hype.

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Registered: Aug 2000
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aye, i would have taken mccain over the whole lot rolled together into some sort of ubercandidateish blob.

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