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squee
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Ok, I'll just come right out and ask

These are a couple of things I want to poll everyone on. Please try to limit your responses to a paragraph or so. I want to generate some discussion on these topics.

1. Philosophy. Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?
2. Sex. What is sex for? (I can think of at least three good reasons, I'm looking for more)
3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?
4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State?

If I come up with any more big vague questions I'll be sure to let you know.

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What are your three good reasons for sex?

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Sex....

procreation
pleasure
power
insomnia

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you need 3 reasons to have sex?

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Roshigoth
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1. I think value is whatever one makes it. What is valuable to one person isn't to another. Hence, no I don't think there's an inherent value to human life, yet I value human life highly. Make sense?

3. Tolerance, at least to me, is letting others think, say, and do what they like, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others. Go about it by not passing judgement on someone's actions as long as they don't affect you (unless they affect someone else who can't stand up for themselves).

4. That depends. I'd say it's more that if the sole reason for doing something is based entirely upon religion -- such that those without that (or any) religion would fail to see the logic or benefit of such actions -- then yes it crosses the line. Depending on the circumstances, it may not actually break the first amendment's establishment clause, so legally it may not violate it, but in spirit it would.

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Sigmund Freud
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Re: Ok, I'll just come right out and ask

1. Philosophy. Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?
Human life is the pinnacle of glory this planet has yet produced. Look at it from the viewpoint of an outsider. Humans are hundreds of times more intelligent than any other species on this planet. They have utterly dominated and domesticated this sphere. We have left this planet, we will leave this solar system and possibly will leave this universe as we know it. Humans are the only animal or sentient being capable of rational thought.


2. Sex. What is sex for? (I can think of at least three good reasons, I'm looking for more)
Life is sex, sex is life. All human interaction is affected and based on sex. Sex is good for the soul, good for the body, good for the species, God wants you to have sex.


3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?
Tolerance is replying to this lame ass post.


4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State?
The founders of American government were staunch Christians. Our government was centered in the church. Separation of Church and State is intended to keep the government from dictating religion as was the case in England at the time. It was never intended to protect the government from the church. At the time of the formation of our current government the government was practically a part of the church. Separation of church and state simply means the government shall have no influence over religion. It grants no protection for the government against organized religion.

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Pinecrika
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There are three things that are almost sure to get anyone an argument....

1. Polotics
2. Religion
3. How to raise ones children

There's my two cents.

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Philosophy: I think all human life has an inherient value. I also think what you do in life raises and lowers that value.

Sex: I'm still working on the drawings for this one. But until they are done, I'll just say that sex is a way to make a connection to life. A connection with you, your partner and possible a new life.

Politics: To start I'll say politics and tolerance don't generally belong in the sentence. The reality is that every society thinks ever other society is weird and wants them to change to be more like them. Most people start learning tolerance at home. I figure if I can learn to tolerate my mom I'm well on my way to tolerating the rest of the world.

Religion: I honestly don't think there is anyway for a politician to separate his religion from his politics. It's kind of like a built in moral code. How can you separate your beliefs from who you are?

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Re: Ok, I'll just come right out and ask

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Originally posted by squee
These are a couple of things I want to poll everyone on. Please try to limit your responses to a paragraph or so. I want to generate some discussion on these topics.

1. Philosophy. Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?



Yes.

quote:
Originally posted by squee

2. Sex. What is sex for?


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$20-$1000 per act depending on the skills of the practitioner.

quote:
Originally posted by squee

3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?



Tolerance is the decision not to attempt to use the machinery of the state to impose one's own lifestyle, behavior, and attitudinal preferences upon others. It should be applied in every instance in which the action in question does not do direct harm to the person or property of another individual.

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4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State?



The phrase "separation of Church and State" does not occur in the Constitution. The first amendment prohibits the establishment of a state religion or any abidgment of the free exercise of religion. The only times when ANY political action can be said to violate this principle are when 1.) they advantage one religion at the direct expense of another or 2.)they prevent people from being able to practice their faith.

So: no burning witches, but you probably do have to put up with school choice vouchers and public financing of religious charities.

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