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Do you realize that your concept of God is really limited to your understanding of yourself? Think about it. If you think abortion is wrong, well God thinks that way too. You concept of adultery is that kissing is okay but BJ's are wrong, then so does God. You thinking killings wrong? Well you get the idea. Can you really think of something that think you inhertiantly is right/wrong that you don't think God would agree with you on? Are you your own moral compass?

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I believe that several of the laws of physics, gravity in particular, constitute immoral restrictions on human freedom.

God, it would appear, thinks otherwise.

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and what if I dont believe in god?

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postulate more.

are you saying that God is in our brain?

do you believe in God?

is god just a cultural interpretation of what they believe in a higher power?

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Well... I would argue it's the other way around.. People believe this because they think God says that (based on, say, the Bible). Now, many will pick and choose their beliefs from those presented, which ends up aligning with your claim, but really... for those who simply take it straight from the Bible, then their concept of God is based on the understanding of milennia-old people from the Middle East.

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Can you really think of something that think you inhertiantly is right/wrong that you don't think God would agree with you on?

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I think that God is limited to what is in the realm of our own beliefs. I believe in God, but I also believe that my focus of what God is is limited to what I can understand and believe. So really, I could never have a true understanding of God. And the God I worship is different from the God everyone else worships because it's one off my own making and understanding.

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Dead_Inside... what about faith?

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my god is a big asshole.

I'm a pretty nice guy.

One day, i'm going to kill god and take his place. even if he doesn't exist.

that's how i feel about god.
(i'm serious, too. I need anti-psychotics)

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I agree that we form our ideas about what God wants from what we already believe. Before most people ever open the Bible (or Koran, Torah etc.) they already have set in their minds a system of beliefs, morals, ethics and all that jazz. It is very rare that someone will change a belief that they hold true just b/c they read a passage that seems to contradict it. And as has been seen many times for almost any idea you have you can find a passage in the Bible that will seem to agree with it.

Rosh, I realise what you're saying but it's not that easy. The Bible contradicts itself many times as to who or what God is. Just try to answer for sure if God is transcendent or eminent. That alone is enough to put you in a mental pretzel.

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Dead_Inside... what about faith?

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I think that God is limited to what is in the realm of our own beliefs. I believe in God, but I also believe that my focus of what God is is limited to what I can understand and believe. So really, I could never have a true understanding of God. And the God I worship is different from the God everyone else worships because it's one off my own making and understanding.

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If god exists, he's a fucking asshole. PRICK!

YOU HEAR ME, YOU PIECE OF SHIT UP THERE!!!?????

I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL YOU BASTARD!

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I think that God is limited to what is in the realm of our own beliefs. I believe in God, but I also believe that my focus of what God is is limited to what I can understand and believe. So really, I could never have a true understanding of God. And the God I worship is different from the God everyone else worships because it's one off my own making and understanding.

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Sqee, I'm positive that my view of God is different from everyone else. I would never assume it's okay to kill an abortion doctor. My best friend thinks God is all fire and brimstone, I think he's more forgiving. People have been killing each other for centuries because of the differences that they perceive. World War 2. Israel. India. Everybody is dead sure what they believe is right.

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a version thereof

http://members.aol.com/JesusImages/


(Personally, the juggler one scares me.)

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But cosmo, not all Christians believe in a fire & brimstone God. Believe it or not, there are those who are more interested in similarities (it's called "ecumenism") and who would not kill abortion doctors.

Who've you been hanging out with? The Baptists?

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Tee Hee Hee

But that's just the point squee. Not even all Christians (or any religion for that matter) can agree on all fundamentals of God) It keeps going back to what you perceive is right. God must agreed with you and vica versa. For example, my friend believes that God sends all murders to hell... because frankly if he were God that's what he'd do. I believe there are times when it can be justified, so I believe God makes allowances. That's why God comes from the internal and why everyone, being inheritantly similair but intrinsically different, have different views.

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Yeah, Squee, just b/c we are different ppl it doesn't meant we can't have a similar view on God. But obviously lots of people DON'T. And perhaps the reason people have a similar view is b/c they come from similar backgrounds. For example: most devout Catholics have a very similar view about God, right? But why is that? And I'm willing to bet that their view differs greatly from a Hindu's view on God, right?

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Religion and war: ever-present throughout the history of mankind. I can never tell the difference between the two.

At least they both keep us occupied.

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Firedrops: Yes, that's true.

cosmo: Are you suggesting that there is one God for those who believe one thing and another God for those who believe another? So we just invent a God to suit our own views?

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That's exactly what I'm suggesting sqee!

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SO then are you saying that there are many gods (one for each person), one God who we all have a different view on, or no God at all and we just make the idea up completely?

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