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WastedPotential
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silencio

some cut and paste action from a post of mine on gusboard:

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i have many questions, but i have no doubts. Mulholland Drive is the best david lynch film yet. About three quarters of the way through, it's all played straight, no supernatural inexplicable stuff. And the whole time you have no clue what is going on. Then, the flick goes into david lynch overdrive. I am going to be sorting out what i saw for quite a while.

I do know that i saw:

a midget
a cowboy
hot girl-on-girl action
a car wreck
blue anodized aluminum

and then Nutrimentia said:

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I have no idea what this movie is about, but a friend of mine told me he watched the first half of it and shut it off because the acting was baaaaaad. He was confused on whether it was bad acting in general or was supposed to be that way.

and then i said this:

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To clear one thing up, I have no idea what this movie's about, either. I think it's just that david lynch writes dialogue that is intentionally unnatural. It sounds stilted and bizarre, and i think it's not because he lacks writing talent, but because he's trying to build a dream-like cadence. Also, i spent some time last week watching Twin Peaks. Lynch may not pick the best actors, but man can he pick the hot chicks (sherilyn fenn, madchen amick, even peggy lipton). Did i mention that this film features hot girl-on-girl action? And Billy Ray Cyrus?

my understanding is that this movie was originally intended to be a tv pilot, and it didn't get picked up because it was too far out there. as a result, you can almost tell where the pilot leaves off and the added material (roughly the final twenty minutes) picks up. it turns from PG to R, in one quick snap (hot girl-on-girl action). I mean, they spend a lot of time generating mysteries and developing characters, and everything is based in reality. Yet, the whole time, you're left feeling just a step behind what the hell is going on. You wait for the one clue that will piece everything together.

Then, the deus ex machina appears. at that point, you know that all these loose ends are going to be tied up with this bizarre (and literal) plot device. But no. the loose ends become shrapnel sprayed out from the explosion of this device and then nothing makes sense, yet it manages to maintain that almost-making-sense quality from before.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that this movie does what Lost Highway tried to do and failed. Lost Highway tried to make you swallow just too much stuff that didn't make sense, alienating you. This movie tones that weirdness down to the point where you can almost follow it, but not quite, and it draws you in. In the end, you're left with your own interpretation, no easy answers. It's like a Beckett play or a melon post.

I can understand if some people can't sit through it. I mean, my old employee, Denver, couldn't handle Traffic, he spent half the movie fucking with his tv and vcr because he thought something was wrong with the color. People like him are content to go watch Navy Seals or whatever. I'm not trying to be elitist, i'm just saying that some people lack the attention span to watch anything that requires an actual investment of time and thought from the viewer.

all in all, this movie is worth watching simply for the HOT girl-on-girl action.

so i just wanted to know if anyone else had anything to add.

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David Lynch, my second favourite director ... fucking awesome movie .... I hated Lost Highway, but MD was totally mad, insane and beautifully noir and it would take at least another 2 views of the movie for me to find out what was going on completely.

I've discussed this film over and over before ... so I dont really have much to add to the above ... other than not sure if youre aware ... but Lynch issued a CHEAT SHEET with the marketing of the movie ... it was a ten point set of clues pointing you to ask certain questions that have key bits of info in them to help you work out the plot ... this is rare for Lynch who generally doesnt reveal plot intent and prefares the viewer to make up their own mind ... It appeared in the marketing for the movie all over the UK but I dont think the US marketing got the same treatment ......

other than that

THIS is one of the best explanations for the movie that I've seen online yet .. fairly informative stuff ... with a lot of MD analysis and suggestion

David Lynch Resources

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Oh, and for anyone who's seen this movie ... you're all FILTHY SINNERS!

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that cheat sheet is on the insert card with the DVD.

I'm calling it a red herring, through and through.

I don't believe he has any intent of allowing people to connect the dots on this one. I don't even think all the dots are in the same dimension, either.

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silencio.... ahhhhh

That movie got under my skin and is part of me now. In spare moments it surfaces.

I read the script a few years ago. I think it got on the web after ABC decided not to run the pilot.

Fascinating to have the memory of reading that and seeing how the movie had been transformed.

The salon discussion reminded me of alt.tv.twin-peaks. Boy oh boy was that a hoot. What I enjoy about reading various analyses and speculation in that fashion is that by seeing many different perspectives, you're at the end still left with your own, just richer.

I guess that's obvious. But anyway.

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hmm... the day before i left las vegas i picked up the twin peaks dvd set. i finished watching it thursday night. i still don't know how that ever made it on tv in the first place.

The effect of watching eight hours a week of david lynch dialogue is weird. Normal speech sounds odd, while you're expecting people to say things like, "there's a fish in the percolator!" or "that would be peachy."

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Must cinema always submit to a reductionist and or logical analysis and 'mean' something? The dreamlike nature of Mulholland Drive was one of the elements that prompted me to see it several times - not to subject it to analysis but to allow the irreality to wash over me.

I'm with Wasted P on this one. Some ideas are so huge, and so nebulous, they protrude into our conceptual understanding only fragmentarily and perhaps can only be presented by directors as a sort of intellectual optical illusion. The emotions of the women in Club Silencio particularly, their tears and their confusion, express for me something that can only be hinted at, for which there isn't yet (or is no longer) vocabulary, yet is awash with a peculiar familiarity.

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