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urbanjunkie
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If You Could Re-Write Movie 'history'

One thing i hate is the way they screwed up the 'Aliens' legacy.

Personally, i would wipe out aliens 3 and aliens resurrection - and continue the story from were aliens ended (with ripley and nute and co in stasis).

if anyone is familiar with the comics - they continue the story from Aliens with nute surviving and being a rather disturbed teenager hell bent on revenge for what happened to her parents and brother.

i think it would have worked better with nute rather than killing her off.

but alas, no chance of aliens 3 and 4 being a dream.........

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No more Jaws movies after the first one would be my pick.

Also, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Halloween would only have 2 (at the most) sequels...

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No sequels. None. Nothing with a cardinal number after the title.

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The Buried Life
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Not all sequels are bad. Aliens, Godfather Part II (and III :X), Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, etc.

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I would stop the superman series after III and batman after the 1989 one.

Cannonball Run II was a worthy sequel.

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was superman 3 the 'comedy' with richard pryor ? if so, i'd can that one too. superman 1 and 2 were great so was the first batman movie. the rest were poor (not even sure i bothered with the last one).

aliens is class. godfather part II is the best from the trilogy.

some sequels work. others dont.

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Superman III was originally shot by the director of I and II but the studio decided to try to make it a straight comedy and fired him. In the end they used some of his shots, and other scenes were reshot. It was ok though. Superman II (with Zod) was clearly the best though.

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yep superman 2 was class. i havent seen if for many many years now. might have to make it my next dvd purchase. i have fond memories of that movie.

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I would make Braveheart and U571 historically accurate.

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hahahahaha

culture and humour points for you

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I would have gotten a decent script and budget for the Dungeons and Dragons movie.

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I would make every movie into a variant of Killer Klownz from outer space. Every. Single. One.
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That was one of the most disturbing films I've ever seen.

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quote:
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I would make Braveheart and U571 historically accurate.

so you would totally re-write them?

good luck with that one. you realise you wouldnt get the funding for them if they were historically acurate, the film industry doesn't care about history, its cares about getting bums on seats. U571, come on Phil, there are a plethora of achievements by the british, do you begrudge them one small victory.

*pj puts fingers in ears as Phil prepares a history lesson about enigma coding machine being the key to the allies winning WW2*

William Wallace as a nobleman is no where near as cool as William Wallace the savage.

sheesh.....i'm dealing with amateurs.......*holds back of hand to forehead*

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urbanjunkie
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pj has a point.

historically acurate=boring

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quote:
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I would have gotten a decent script and budget for the Dungeons and Dragons movie.

i have one question for you.

how?

Dungeons and Dragons was doomed from the out not least because of its script but also because of its cast. if you get a decent gcast for you film then a film company will willingly put up the cash for it, ask David Fincher, thats how he gets all his films made. It was also a cheap ploy to try and cash in the the fact that LOTR was being made and people wished to get a quick fix of fantasy cinema.

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Paint CHiPs
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Fuck off and die, Superman 3 rules!

I would have Quentin Tarantino directing Natural Born Killers.

Sorry, old grudge.

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superman 3 does not and will never EVER rule.

the thing with Natural Born Killers (and this still shocks me) is that i have never seen it.

now considering that its probably 'my type of movie' i have no idea why i have avoided it. i suppose it may be down to the fact that so many people have suggested its best ignored.

didnt QT pen the original screenplay? i think it concentrated on the news reporters rather than the 2 killers.

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quote:
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superman 3 does not and will never EVER rule.

You just have to be in the right frame of mind.

Dmoon is right, the second one is the best, but Superman 3 has its merits. It should be noted, however, that I am in the minority on this issue.

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didnt QT pen the original screenplay? i think it concentrated on the news reporters rather than the 2 killers.

Yes he did, and it would have been a lot better had he directed it. But I have a long-standing feud with Oliver Stone (I think he's an overrated hack) that is such an unpopular opinion that I choose not to voice it most of the time just because it's a pain in the ass to argue. NBL is one example of a great script that Stone fucked up (and pj will hate me for this, but Any Given Sunday is another good example). I think, had QT directed his own script, it would have been a much better movie (though quite a different one, as you mentioned). The script was more about America's weird cult of celebrity than a Bonnie and Clyde story done with obtuse camera work.

And, in general, most movies are better when done with one person and a singular vision (a generalization, but one that is often true in films, and most film critics agree with me).

But don't get me started.

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I would like to see all four sequels to Attack of the Killer Tomatoes erased from history and never to be spoken of again. I've only seen three of them but I'm almost certain that the fourth is atleast as nasty as the other three.

The reason for this wish is that they were on TV in Sweden a couple of weeks ago and I was unfortunate enough to see three of them.

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I have a friend (with generally a good taste in movies) who claims that Return of the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes is a great film. I have never seen it (depite the fact that he is always trying to convince me to rent it) so I can't really say, but I can't imagine it being any good.

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quote:
Originally posted by Paint CHiPs
Oliver Stone

did you like jfk ?

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quote:
Originally posted by pj

i have one question for you.

how?

Dungeons and Dragons was doomed from the out not least because of its script but also because of its cast. if you get a decent gcast for you film then a film company will willingly put up the cash for it, ask David Fincher, thats how he gets all his films made. It was also a cheap ploy to try and cash in the the fact that LOTR was being made and people wished to get a quick fix of fantasy cinema.

I rather think that you may be overstimating what AD&D fans were expecting from it. A decent script is relatively cheap and the real problem with the film is that bits from the story were cut out. The company that owns AD&D is pretty rich too, of course, and might have put more cash in I should have thought (although I think that the movie still made money). The AD&D film has been in planning for many years, incidentally (perhaps the LoTR film was why money was finally made available, but the project is old).

The money for the LoTR film was not on account of the 'famous' cast I shouldn't have thought (not that the cast are not relatively bankable, but not to the extent that their names would raise the amount of money required to make the film).

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the money for LoTR had absolutely nothing to do with the cast. as one of the higher ups in legal at new line said "the cast is inconsequential"... in fact, viggo mortensen was added the day before they started shooting. they knew what they had and just needed bodies who could act better than if they were on a soap opera to fill the roles.

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quote:
Originally posted by Paint CHiPs

The script was more about America's weird cult of celebrity than a Bonnie and Clyde story done with obtuse camera work.
But don't get me started. [/B]

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