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I am working on other crap, but it's too large for the scanner.

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hum, even your "crap" is cool. Love your work.

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Looks good to me. I like it. :+:

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heh, postmod, remember me? yes, i like it to

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Yesh I remember you Mr Phuck

and footnote, I just joined http://www.BusinessofArtCenter.org/
and I have already been snagged for volunteer work (this friday helping set up a show opening), & they also might obtain my employment at the front desk for retail and phone crap.

So that is something!

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i think it's very simplistic and it makes me feel like looking at a faraway place in my head.

and i like the way the brown turns to purpley-violet at the bottom of her skirt.

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her butt isn't big enough
j/k

looks good :+: :+:
what did you use? watercolor and pencil? or just watercolor? or neither?

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Do you think Renaissance persons really liked the robust and curvacious ladies (fat girls), or do you think their obvious ability of them to be better models for works of art has simply caused us future folk to make inaccurate cultural assumptions about Leo's homeboys?

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I think that larger chicks were popular at the time of the rennisance, yes. If you were fat, you were rich (but being too fat made you a glutton). Like having long nails and fine fabrics for your dresses, it was a sign of health and culture. The rabble of the time when rubenesuqe chicks were in fashion were thin. Body shapes have always fluctuated in popularity. Even at the beginning of the 20th centrury, you can find adverts that advertised for pills for women to make them 'nicely plump', with illustrations showing a fat happy girl next to an thin unhappy one.

It's a fad. that's all. Things will change and go back and forth, as all fads do.

Oh and fiend, that was a pencil drawing on watercolor paper, with the watercolor afterwards.

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mmmsivart: i know that your question was aimed to PMG in particular, but i'd like to answer it with my own opinion.

first:
contrary to what the media of today shoves down your throat, women are naturally curvaceous. it has been only recently in mankind's history that we as human beings have been able to consciously change the way we look through better and more diverse foods, and the knowledge we have gained about how to sculpt and change our bodies through exercise and diet. women were designed by nature, evolution, god, call it what you will...to be, as you so vulgarly put it, "fat".

second:
what makes you assume that a "fat" girl makes a better model than a "skinny" girl? the beauty of form, shadow, and muscle extension can be found in any body shape. you can create a beautiful work of art from any model- it is the artist who pulls the beauty of form out of the model, not vice versa.

third:
my personal opinion is that you're trying to goad an argument with PMG, which doesn't make any sense. if you don't like the way she posts, then stop posting in all of her threads, giving her attention, and generally creating a fuss which will only ensure that she gets more accolades from those of us who truly appreciate what she has to offer.

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Originally posted by morgana
mmmsivart: i know that your question was aimed to PMG in particular, but i'd like to answer it with my own opinion.

first:
contrary to what the media of today shoves down your throat, women are naturally curvaceous.

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"it's so nice to see that you can debate intelligently, without stooping to the use of degrading language in order to appear superior in an arena in which you have no solid ground. it's refreshing to have the opportunity to argue with someone without the bother of having to defend against personal attacks. thanks for that."

that would have been my response to you if you had maintained a mature approach to my post.

in response, i can only point out how ignorant you are to my stance in this argument. i've also studied art, and taken classes outside of a high school level. i've also pursued photography, jewelry and metalworking, and pottery. i've worked with models, and before i moved to my current location, almost all of my friends were professional level artists, with artwork shown both at the campus level in the state university and pieces on exhibit at reputable galleries in other states.

for you to so easily dismiss my opinion without knowing exactly how i've formed it is your mistake. i'm not "retarded" for thinking that you still have issues with pmg, someone you've made derogatory comments about both in public and in private PM's. if anything, one can assume you're backpeddling now only to distance yourself from the issues you yourself raised without provocation just a day or so ago.

i don't want to further this discussion in this thread. this isn't TLF, this is a place to showcase art. if you choose to rant on about how retarded i am, feel free to continue the discussion in the lost forum.

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"it's so nice to see that you can debate intelligently, without stooping to the use of degrading language in order to appear superior in an arena in which you have no solid ground. it's refreshing to have the opportunity to argue with someone without the bother of having to defend against personal attacks. thanks for that."

that would have been my response to you if you had maintained a mature approach to my post.

in response, i can only point out how ignorant you are to my stance in this argument. i've also studied art, and taken classes outside of a high school level. i've also pursued photography, jewelry and metalworking, and pottery. i've worked with models, and before i moved to my current location, almost all of my friends were professional level artists, with artwork shown both at the campus level in the state university and pieces on exhibit at reputable galleries in other states.

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as i've already stated to you, i'd rather not continue this discussion in this forum, let alone this thread. if you would let go of your pretense of righteous indignation for ten seconds, you'd realize that my reason for not wanting to continue this discussion here is because we are not having a discussion on PMG's piece, which is the subject of this thread. let me use short words so that it sinks in this time:

this is an art forum. we are no longer discussing art.

i have no problem with anyone expressing their opinions, negative or otherwise, of art in this forum. however, when the discussion turns into a personal attack that is no longer directly related to the thread, it should be moved to a more suitable location. if you want to continue to make an ass of yourself, i'd be happy to oblige you in the lost forum. k.thx.bye.

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Peeyemgee, why the plane geometry? It looks to me like you're toying with ad and/or poster design. I'm not critical; just curious.

Amen.

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I've always digged poster design... and you know I have most of the 1st half of my schooling in ad design and illustration.

but honestly. I was just fucking around... and I'd figure I'd post some of it.

Sometimes I have no idea why I do what I do.

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Curvy women are sexxy. If she looks like a 12-year-old boy I ain't gettin' sprung.

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well i think the picture looks shit.

just my 2p's worth

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