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WastedPotential
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802.11b

this is probably mostly aimed at the wraith, but does anyone else that "hitchhikes" on the information superhighway know how to spot wireless access points visually?

I bring this up because i was in a town a few weeks back (rexburg, ID) that was saturated with access points, most publicly accessible, but there was also a large commercial network (at least 20-odd access points) in town. I had no visual clues as to the location of the antennae. Now, part of my job is to identify communications hardware, but no one at work has been any help as far as wireless hardware/antennae goes.

i realized that google is a fantastic search tool, but YOU try a search for "wireless antenna" and see how much fun it is.

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http://www.asylumnation.com/asylum/...hlight=wireless

There might be some help in that thread, dont know, I didnt follow any of the links in it.

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yes, i wish i had thought of searching WIT. thanks.

i only looked at the top page list of topics.

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Some antennas... From Yagis to parabolic dishes:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc...it/airoa_ds.htm



You should now check out http://www.fab-corp.com and check out the following links:

Antennas Omni
Antennas Panel
Antennas Parabolic
Antennas Yagi

I'd link the direct pages but that have fecking script that redirects you to the index if you go straight to it. You have to load it in their frames.

I have this mounted on the top of my car:



Which, is a 5dB gain omnidirectional antenna, unpowered. Increases my wireless range - with a nominal output of 15dBi at 100mW with my Compaq and Orinoco NICs and/or an output of 20dBi at 100mW with my Cisco Aironet NICs. Extends detection capabilities from a few hundred feet to nearly 2 miles.

I also utilize this GPS to capture data for triangulation:



Some miscellaneous pictures of my gear taken during a trip to Dingleland:

(click for larger versions)

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pretty darn neato

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Watch out Wraith, geeks make missphinx crazy with lust.

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search netstumbler and airopeek.

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search kismet and airmagnet and dstumbler and wigle

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quote:
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Watch out Wraith, geeks make missphinx crazy with lust.


Hmm, is she hot?

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quote:
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Hmm, is she hot?

Why yes I am, for an 85 year old.

I even have some of my own teeth left, I'll have you know.

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but not in the front.
NUDGE NUDGE.

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i am sort of limited, antenna-wise, but sort of not. the wireless card has an antenna lead, to plug in to the laptop's built-in antenna (which runs around the perimeter of the screen), but the card itself is under the keyboard, so any modified antenna lead would pretty much have to stick out of the keyboard unless i wanted to take a drill to my ibook (hint: i don't).

i found macstumbler for OS X on one of the links in the other thread. a cool program that does a better job of updating the signal strength situation, plus it has tones whenever a new network is picked up (one tone for WEP enabled, a different tone for plain vanilla), plus it speaks the network name aloud so i can drive and all.

thanks for the antenna links, by the way.

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The Wraith - One man driving, network hacking, LAN attacking, packet whacking, squidy smacking, flamer.

All hail!

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My 802.11 activity has nothing to do with "network hacking" or "LAN attacking". I do not condone nor engage in illegal activities.

Just an FYI

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quote:
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My 802.11 activity has nothing to do with "network hacking" or "LAN attacking". I do not condone nor engage in illegal activities.

Just an FYI



Because it's still in the fuzzy grey?

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it's all radio. scanning for wireless networks should be governed by the same rules or laws as using a radio scanner, because that's what you're doing.

there may be people exploiting security holes, but i don't believe it's anything they couldn't exploit from a wired connection.

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edit: reread.

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http://www.wardrivingisnotacrime.com

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This has been downloaded 118 time(s).

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so the fun is in the discovery? like metal detectors, without the digging.

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We know that, Ferris.

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and without the sweet sweet payoff of loose change and keys.

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pity my poor soul, for i am both a wardriver AND a metal detector.

jesus christ, i need some new hobbies, like drinking or something.

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Down at the shore there's a place where there's no one vacationing
There's just the sound of the call of the wild overcoming the fear of the unknown

And I've got something to help you understand
Something waiting there beneath the sand
My metal detector
Is with me all of the time

I'm the inspector over the mine

Look past the volleyball (look past the ball)
Look past the squawking gull (look past the gull)
Ignore the mountain of discarded falderal

'Cause I've got something to make you understand
Something hidden there underneath the land
My metal detector
Is with me all of the time

I'm the inspector over the mine
Metal detector, watch it shine

Every seashell has a story to tell if you're listening
But underneath every shell there's a story as well if you've heard enough of the sea
Then everything on the top will just suddenly stop seeming interesting
So listen now to the sound of the things that are found underground

Don't need no volleyball (don't need no volleyball)
Don't need no squawking gull (don't need no squawking gull)
Don't need to look at any bathing beauty doll (don't need to look at any doll)

For I've got something to help you understand
Something waiting there beneath the sand
My metal detector
Is with me all of the time

I'm the inspector over the mine

Look past the volleyball (look past the ball)
Look past the squawking gull (look past the gull)
Ignore the mountain of discarded falderal

'Cause I've got something to make you understand
Something hidden there underneath the land
My metal detector
Is with me all of the time

I'm the inspector over the mine
Metal detector, watch it shine

Don't need no volleyball (don't need no volleyball)
Don't need no squawking gull (don't need no squawking gull)
Metal detector, all the time (metal detector all the time)

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