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In my head, esp when I'm walking from one place to another, usually on the subject of men and women, and then I think, wow, these are great thoughts, I should write them down, but when I do, they're all shallow and poorly written. So anyways, here's what I was thinking about...


We are flawed. According to christians, it's Original Sin...man's disobedience of God. From non christians I've heard a myriad of reasons, from lusts of the bodies, to rebelling of the mind against government control. Still, no matter what people say, every person is weak. It's not one thing, some people have sex promiscuously, some people will lie about anything, some people will steal anything. But this is about sex of course. So many people are flawed in this particular way. One of my more glaring faults is that I don't look at sex as immoral. At all. Ever. Unfortunately, this has led to the lose of a number of girlfriends, as they believe hooking up with someone else while dating them is wrong, and while I know mentally it is wrong, and I shouldn't do it, I have no compunction when it actually happens. I feel bad afterwards if they find out, but it's regret for hurting her, not regret for the actual act.

I've told this to a few friends of mine, and as one they all regard me as some kind of freak...as if some sort of moral mechanism inside of me isn't working. The more amusing and slightly ironic part of this is that I don't lie. Or steal, as I regard that as a form of lying. Almost all of them would lie about little things, or to keep them from trouble, and almost all of them steal. Whether it's pirating software, or not reporting full tips (As a waiter and pizza driver, I've always reported full tips), or just snitching things from DHall (College dining hall here), none of them have any compunction about stealing from/lying too someone they don't know or care about. I wonder if serial killers have a similiar problem...they know killing people is wrong, and some of them don't care, or maybe some of them just don't feel it as wrong, much like I know cheating on my gf is wrong in the abstract sense.

Now, of course, I said my problem was cheating on my girlfriend just now, but of course that's not really it. Still, it's only important when I have a girlfriend, because if I'm single, then sleeping with the people I want to is just looked upon as more of a leisure activity rather then an immoral pursuit (depending upon who's doing the looking on, naturally).


So, after that long and lengthy introduction, due to my ramblings, this is a thread on flaws. Flaws you know you have, and can't seem to curb, or ones you don't want to curb, because God knows I don't want to curb this one, I enjoy it too much. I have lesser flaws, but this is the one with the most potential to cause me trouble, and the reason I am a shitty boyfriend, but a good lay. The last was an aside of course

Anyways, anyone else feel up to discussion? I may discuss at more length if anythign else occurs to me...I tend to have deep thoughts at least once a day, not many make it to paper though...or screen in this case.

Melesse

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I flawed in reading this thread in its entirety. Shame on me.

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My only flaw is my lack of flaws! oh shit.. that doesn't work out, ahhh its mind boggling

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No discussion tonight Ah well, I was in a discussion type mood. Anyways, guess it's bedtime. I prob shouldn't write anything at one in the morning

Melesse

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I am a perfectly flawed study of flawless perfection

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i can't discuss stuff in forums, chat discussion is much easier, and, most people don't want to admit their flaws or dont think they have any

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My biggest flaw happens to be my biggest flaw!

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your biggest flaw is that you think you are funny.

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haha

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We are flawed.

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melesse, if you enter into a relationship with someone with their assumption that said relationship is monogomous and you cheat on them, you're a liar.

you know what your "flaw" is...if you continue to date women and not inform them of it, you're intentionally deceiving them and are lying to them.

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melesse, if you enter into a relationship with someone with their assumption that said relationship is monogomous and you cheat on them, you're a liar.

you know what your "flaw" is...if you continue to date women and not inform them of it, you're intentionally deceiving them and are lying to them.

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Satan's penis does have a point. the more inclined a man is to put his penis inside warm moist places, the more likely it is he will create offspring. Darwin's Theory applied to the race that 'mastered' nature means that with each generation the males especially get more and more promiscuous... and we're already a whole bunch of generations after those orgy-going Romans.

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Satan's penis does have a point. the more inclined a man is to put his penis inside warm moist places, the more likely it is he will create offspring. Darwin's Theory applied to the race that 'mastered' nature means that with each generation the males especially get more and more promiscuous... and we're already a whole bunch of generations after those orgy-going Romans.

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I think that's the Greek you're refering to...

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I think that's the Greek you're refering to...

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Getting back to the original topic of flaws...

Melesse, first of all, shame on you for thinking you could actually get this crowd to actually discuss their faults...

Anyway, my flaws as I understand them are as follows (all basically self-esteem issues):
1. I want attention all the time
2. I blame other people for my problems
3. I try to avoid the consequences of my fuck-ups.

I'm also not nearly as intelligent as I make myself out to be. And I'm not a good chess player. My teeth aren't straight, and my complexion lately is getting worse and worse (although I think that might be the new facial soap stuff I'm trying).

Anything else?

Oh yeah...I'm also an awful boyfriend...I'm not sure you can pin it down to one activity like deceit or cheating...more that I run hot & cold, affectionate and then distant, and it's unfair and they can't stand it. That's sunk all the relationships I've had to date.

That's about all I can think of at the moment...

As for your own problems...let me ask you this. Do you have an image in your mind of the kind of person you want to be? Is it different from who you are now (ie, you want to change)? And do you have difficulty making it come about?

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you also complain too much, squee.

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"Anyway, my flaws as I understand them are as follows ..."

- You failed to mention the fact that you joined the Navy. Not only was that a flawed decision, but your failure to mention it, itself, is a flaw.

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Poetry is a better profession than the navy.

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I smell of Monkey piss.

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Satan's penis does have a point. the more inclined a man is to put his penis inside warm moist places, the more likely it is he will create offspring. Darwin's Theory applied to the race that 'mastered' nature means that with each generation the males especially get more and more promiscuous... and we're already a whole bunch of generations after those orgy-going Romans.

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...and this is the real reason 'people will do it anyways"

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Hah, sorry Morgana, I saw this yesterday and wasn't ready to reply. I guess it is lying in a sense, I had to quell my initial reaction. I'm not ready to think about that in any more depth right now, but I will sometime, I promise

I do the hot/cold thing too squee...it's more like I need a part time gf/fuck buddy. That would work better I think lol

Noone else wants to participate? Poo on you :-p

My cat has a flaw, she likes knocking things off of shelves...it's like she's claimed them all for herself and she's fiughting off invaders.

Anyways,....

Melesse

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My puppy has a flaw, she always takes my older dogs bed and makes the older dog lay on the uncomfortable bed

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