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zornkugel
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ThinkPad cd drive

I don't know if anyone has an answer, but IBM.com certainly didn't:
I have a ThinkPad 390E that I got in June of 1999. For some reason, it spontaneously ejects the cd drive CONSTANTLY. As soon as you close it, it pops back open again. This may happen a couple times in a row, or it may happen almost twenty times. As little as a few minutes or as much as a few hours may pass between these "fits" of popping open. It doesn't matter whether there is a cd in it or not (I've tried it with audio cds, data cds, and without anything in there at all). It always happens (99.9% of the time) when the computer is starting up.

So, there's the basics. Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing it and what I can do to stop it (short of taping it shut or buying a new cd drive)?

Thanks!
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I suspect the locking spring is bust in the drive. A simple seek is most probably 'causing enough current to pop it open.

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Thank you. Proposed solution?

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Take the drive out and clean it. There is a type of spray for electronics that does not conduct electricity and will degrease the shit out of it. You can also wash it out with hot water and let it dry completely.

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Thanks - I'll have to get some of that cleaning spray. I've never thought to take it out and clean it.

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Take the drive out and clean it. There is a type of spray for electronics that does not conduct electricity and will degrease the shit out of it. You can also wash it out with hot water and let it dry completely.


Dunking the drive in water will completely and utterly fuck up the CD drive beyond any form of recognition. The reading laser and it's related bits are extremely sensitive and do not respond well to be dunked into water.

While the spray idea has some merit, I'm dubious about using it on a laptop CD-ROM drive. They tend to have the more sensitive components more exposed than in a standard desktop CD-ROM.

My solution would be to simply have the drive replaced. Thinkpad's are a well known and popular brand and there are a fair few companies out there that will happily repair and refurbish older models.

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Thanks, macker. I wouldn't go for the water idea - common sense prevails there, doesn't it? Water + electronics = broken
I'm going to try some of that spray can air to see if I can just get some debris knocked out (if any is there). Worse comes to worst, I can replace it when I have money again.

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fuck macker's advice, TEFL knows what he's talking about.

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fuck macker's advice, TEFL knows what he's talking about.


Strange but true. I had to do it to a key board once as well as a floppy drive. Both worked like a charm afterward. Just make damn sure it's 100% dried out or you'll wish you had.

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You put a CD-ROM drive in water, unless it's *very* pure, you will stain the lense. How on earth can you even compare the reading heads used in floppy drives to that used in a CD-ROM?

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Macker would seem to have a point here; you (TEFL) are talking about, broadly speaking, electronics but macker is talking about optics.

Not that I know who is right, but optics and electronics are certainly different.

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Ok, maybe you can stain the lense. But, as I have wore glasses for years now, I've yet to ever fuck them up with water. Of course, after the dunking, you may want to swap the lense off with a eyeglass or camera cloth and some rubbing alcohol or some windex. (I've cleaned the lense on my cd player like that for years, the same as I have my glasses.) The only problem I could think of would be cleaning the underside of the lense if indeed water would stain it.

Maybe a good dunking and soak in pure alcohol may be a better solution. <shrugs> Ever that or just get a new cdrw.

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The level of perfection required in a CD player probably massively exceeds that required by your eyes from glasses lenses (easy enough to verify that by looking to see how much detail of the CD tracks you can make out just by looking at the CD), so macker might have a point.

Water is a terrible conductor (the water that we think of as a good conductor isn't pure water) so should be safe for electronics as you say, as long as it is pure enough, but as far as lens smearing goes, that is another issue (I know that the accuracy required on those is pretty high).

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(I know that the accuracy required on those is pretty high).


Odd that you need such an accurate read head to read such a horribly error filled storage medium.

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Odd that you need such an accurate read head to read such a horribly error filled storage medium.



Probably a case of lowering the errors by the most achievable way possible; it might be that small errors in the optics introduce really horrible errors in the read data, too.

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If you are planning on dunking anything electronic that you really like in water, you should preferably dip it in alcohol after. It will displace the water, and dry quicky. You can also blow it dry with a blowgun or canned air, but the alcohol is the method i learned when fooling with electronics.

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alien technology is washable in plain old dishsoap and water, so i can understand where TEFL is coming from.

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alien technology is washable in plain old dishsoap and water, so i can understand where TEFL is coming from.


Goes to show what you know. Alien tech requires a sound dunking in tetrahydrosaline and sorgum molasses. Of course, seeing as you have plenty on hand, liquid potato starch and vodka would also do in a pinch.

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