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MICHAEL JACKSON ADMITS PLASTIC SURGERY; FRANCE UNCONVINCED
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Chirac Demands More Time for U.N. Face Inspectors
At the United Nations today, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell offered what he called “conclusive proof” that the singer Michael Jackson has had plastic surgery, but failed to convince France.
In his presentation, Mr. Powell first showed two photos of Mr. Jackson, taken in 1979 and 2003, to illustrate the dramatic transformation of the singer’s face from human to Halloween mask.
As Security Council members watched intently, Mr. Powell then played a tape of a recent court appearance by Mr. Jackson, during which the tip of his nose appeared to fall from his face and onto the floor.
Finally, Mr. Powell played a tape of the ABC program “20/20” in which Mr. Jackson admitted he had plastic surgery, after which a visibly frustrated Mr. Powell turned to the ambassador from France and said, “How much more freaking proof do you clowns need?”
While the French ambassador did not respond, impassively sipping on a glass of red wine while reading a book by Camus, later in the day French President Jacques Chirac had harsh words for Mr. Powell, saying that the Secretary of State “had proved nothing.”
President Chirac added that the United Nations should grant its official face inspection team more time to look at Mr. Jackson’s head to determine whether the singer had plastic surgery or not.
In related news, President Chirac said the U.S. had failed to show convincing proof that Jennifer Lopez has a big ass.
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LEAVE MIKEY ALONE
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Of course the French embrace Jaqueson. The have been ordered to do so by Jerry Lewis.
Jerry wants all of his kids to be hugged by Jacko so they will heal.
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I think the question here is, technically, isn't all of France considered Jerry's Kids? That's alot of hugging and healing for one Wacko Jacko to do, though with the advent of Viagra I'm sure he could work his way through at least half the preschools. The remaining population will have to be serviced..err..healed by the catholic priests.
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Sorry forbie i love you and all, but the comparison (although funny) isn't really adequate. What would make it more accurate would to throw in the fact that they're trying to convince the french to help murder MJ's plastic surgeon because he admitted to having his nose done.
Or not.
I don't like the way France is being treated right now...all because they and Germany don't want a war (what freaks!). We've took the isolationist stance before in history too, you know... that is until someone attacked us and gave us a 'real' reason to get into the war (because stopping 3 countries from taking over europe is just totally petty and wasn't worth our efforts). Not that i blame any country that's weary of war....who the hell wants war?
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euphorbia
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quote: Originally posted by shyloh
Sorry forbie i love you and all, but the comparison (although funny) isn't really adequate.
It wasn’t meant to equate the situations...just supposed to be funny. I think it was so overly exaggerated it should have been clear I would have thought.
quote: I don't like the way France is being treated right now...all because they and Germany don't want a war (what freaks!).
Germany are making loads of money off Saddam...they have given us lots of intelligence even some tying Saddam to terrorists...France is making loads and Saddam owes Russia billions. There were Chinese engineers recently in Iraq building him shit...that shiny black jet with the nasty spray feature was sold to them by France (spray feature not included...I think its all rather suspect. One of their fist subjects of business when all this stuff got started was assurance they would get theirs. Im not sure they got it.
as well as in what they are saying...they are pushing for us to continue on a failing policy...a policy that has failed for 12 years...while a threat grows.
Who ever wants war? Some times it is needed though.
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Sometimes it's needed, yes. I just think we're lashing out at anyone who's reluctant to jump in and scream "let me round up millions of my people now to go die!" right away. But you have a good point that that the policy obviously isn't working errr, the way they had hoped it would....hehe...
Bleh.
I still wish we would stop branding everyone as an enemy for disagreeing with us, that's all
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Administration Seeks Public's Help In Finding An Excuse For War
Having exhausted all previous efforts to rally support behind a military invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration said today that it is seeking the public's help in finding a reason why it should go to war.
“If anyone has a reason, anything at all, then please send it to me Don Rumsfeld, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.,” announced Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. “But bear in mind that we've already tried links to terrorism, global instability, satellite photos, etc.”
“We've got 150,000 troops just waiting for an excuse to kick Saddam's ass. So please just give us one,” Rumsfeld went on to say.
The public is asked to send in their excuses for going to war with Iraq on a self-addressed stamped envelope, with the best entries to be read at an upcoming White House staff meeting.
Meanwhile, Secretary of State Colin Powell is set to enlist the help of American allies in order to discover some as yet unknown reasons for going to war.
“Nobody can accuse us now of going it alone. This is truly a multilateral effort,” Powell explained.
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quote: Originally posted by euphorbia
It wasn’t meant to equate the situations...just supposed to be funny. I think it was so overly exaggerated it should have been clear I would have thought.
it is clearly evil subverting political propaganda, thats what it is.
though it was very funny
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quote: Originally posted by shyloh
Sometimes it's needed, yes. I just think we're lashing out at anyone who's reluctant to jump in and scream "let me round up millions of my people now to go die!" right away. But you have a good point that that the policy obviously isn't working errr, the way they had hoped it would....hehe...
Bleh.
I still wish we would stop branding everyone as an enemy for disagreeing with us, that's all
French politics shape Iraq stance
As one of the strongest anti-war voices on the United Nations Security Council, French President Jacques Chirac may have come across as anti-American over Iraq.
His stance has been described by critics as ambiguous at best, self-serving at worst.
Accused by some of chasing French economic interests in Iraq's oilfields, Mr Chirac's motivations may also have to do with some very prosaic domestic considerations.
All along it has remained unclear whether France would join a war against Iraq if push came to shove.
At the recent Franco-German summit marking 40 years of friendship, it seemed that France and Germany agreed to do everything possible to avoid war.
But France has not yet made its mind up about war one way or the other, says Jacques Beltran, Iraq analyst at the Paris-based French Institute for International Relations (IFRI).
"France's position may come across as ambiguous, but in reality it is not. All along France has said that force should be used as a last resort. It must be sure that all peaceful means have been exhausted before resorting to force," he told BBC News Online.
"It is clear that the Franco-American relationship is in crisis. France does not agree over the means to reach these objectives. It does not object to America's objectives, but over its method," he says.
Anti-American?
In trying to understand France's attitude towards the Iraq crisis, American officials may be thinking back to the time when President Charles de Gaulle took France out of Nato to keep France free from American influence.
President de Gaulle saw US dominance as the main threat to his country, and all French leaders after him have continued a tradition of staking claims towards an independent French policy.
Philosopher Jean-Francois Revel, who wrote one of a flurry of recent books on the subject, explains this attitude.
"It is the compensation of our failures; we were once upon a time a great power, we are one no longer. Europe is struggling to build itself, we resent the US for having a global power when we built the American 'hyperpower' in the first place," he told French television.
In an interview with the International Herald Tribune, Mr Chirac seemed to confirm that thinking when he said: "In life, you know, one must not confuse friends with sycophants," talking about the Franco-American relationship.
"It's better to have only a few friends than to have a lot of sycophants. And I'm telling you that France considers itself one of the friends of the Americans, not necessarily one of its sycophants. And when we have something to say, we say it."
Public opinion
There is also French public opinion to be taken into consideration.
A poll published by the Figaro newspaper on Tuesday shows French people very sceptical about any action against Iraq.
Almost three-quarters want France to use its veto if the US proposes a resolution calling for war on Iraq.
Since his re-election last year, Mr Chirac is reported to have kept a close eye on those very polls and has concentrated on foreign policy as the main area where he could make a long-lasting impact.
Now that he is free from the shackles of power-sharing with a Socialist government following last year's elections, Mr Chirac can make his mark on French diplomacy as he sees fit.
Mr Chirac's personal desire to be remembered in history as a man of peace after seven years of relative inaction on that front may indeed be a powerful motive.
No foregone conclusion
Friday - when the UN weapons inspectors report to the security council - will be a key day for Mr Chirac and French diplomacy.
If it emerges that Baghdad is caving in to diplomatic pressure and has indeed made progress towards co-operation with the weapons inspectors, then France will feel justified in its stance.
"It is not difficult to imagine a scenario where France does not follow America's lead and refrains from entering a conflict against Iraq," Mr Beltran says.
The fact that France's only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, is being despatched to the Gulf does not necessarily means it is getting ready for war.
France is giving itself the means of following a policy where it can assist the inspectors' efforts rather than take part in a possible war, Mr Beltran says.
President Chirac seemed to echo this when he said at a press conference marking the visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin in Paris on Monday: "This region really does not need another war.
"I am convinced that is the opinion of a very, very large majority of the world's population and of a very, very large majority of the political leaders of the world's countries."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2748859.stm
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I just want to add since it seems no one is going to post about it....the above poem is propaganda, those who keep spreading it and think its harmless I hope you feel the same about other forms of propaganda. The above poem is a tool for mindless mouth pieces and much like the Mandela speech is full of lies ignorance and contemptful bias.
I saw Mandela's speech and though I know he is know for his crazy ramblings it still bothered me because I know people who spread something like this poem wouldn't look in to Mandella's claims and just repeat them in ignorance. But anyway, the internet is a form of media...posting propaganda people will be eager to host prolifically as mouth pieces imo is not too different than the government doing it...and I hope those that do it allow for the same behavior from the government and other people they may not agree with...less they be hypocrites.
Sure it's freedom of speech, and I support you in that you can shit out anything you want from your mouth, I just have to question the type of person that would use their freedom in that way...what the motives are or the character of the person is.
I'm not calling anyone names as I don't think my points have been considered by most people who continue to post this sort of shit, but maybe it should be considered.
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Jesus. Once again, beautiful in its simplicity. Points.
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Yeah nice try, but the above was not touted as protesters as truth. When I said that it was about material actually being used to take a "real" stance...nice try though.
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YER EITHER WITH US, ER AGINT US!!
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quote: Originally posted by BnB
I laughed 4B.
and that’s what it was meant to do...not to be on a sign screamed about that France doesnt believe Michael Jackson had plastic surgery 
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