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euphorbia
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Another Bin Laden tape?

not on any of the news sites yet but it was mentioned on the news...they are working now to verify:

Seemingly a Islamic group in London had received a tape where Bin Laden says he will die sometime this year in an unspecified act of martyrdom.


*conspiracy theory*
Now, I don’t know how this voice analysis works but they may have just found a guy who can mimic bin laden well and is telling him what to say. This martyrdom story may be a cover for Bin Laden dieing at the hands of the Americans and its an effort to keep moral up.

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karen
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good theory.
not sure whether I believe hes alive or not, myself.

I do think thats its rather foolish to send a threat, though. The only reason it wouldnt be foolish is if you were looking for bin laden, but they were planning on using someone else entirely. Even then, the threat would send so security so high(you would think) that itd be in their interests NOT to do so.
Using it just to make us "back off" seems out of thei main interest anyway. I assume they just want us all dead for our beliefs. But I could have it wrong.
I barely even know what this "war" is about. It just seems to be a chess game of sorts.
Then again, I dont watch the news much.

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I heard this tape was a music tape.
Osama Unplugged
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He does a fair Hotel California and 2 or 3 Johnny Cash hits.
Cat Stevens sings backup on one of them.

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I don't know about that. I mean, this war, and their hartred is because they're so bloody devoted to their religion, is it not? Wouldn't that be some kind of religious sacrilege?

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That's my take on it, SG.

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quote:
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I don't know about that. I mean, this war, and their hartred is because they're so bloody devoted to their religion, is it not? Wouldn't that be some kind of religious sacrilege?



Singing Cat Stevens' "moonshadow" is a ticket straight to hell!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by wonderaz
Cat Stevens sings backup on one of them.


Point.

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By JANE WARDELL, Associated Press Writer

LONDON - A British-based Islamic news agency said Thursday it has a new audio recording of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) in which he predicts he will die as "a martyr" this year in an attack against his enemies.


The Al-Ansaar news agency said that the 53-minute tape was allegedly recorded this month and acquired from a seller who advertised over the Internet.


Imran Khan, who runs Birmingham-based agency Al-Ansaar, told The Associated Press that he translated the tape, describing it as poetic with several verses from the Quran.


"In this final year I hurl myself and my steed with my soul at the enemy. Indeed on my demise I will become a martyr," the al-Qaida leader purportedly says.


"I pray my demise isn't on a coffin bearing green mantles. I wish my demise to be in the eagle's belly," he continues.


Khan said experts contacted by Al-Ansaar believed the "eagle" referred to the United States and the quote revealed bin Laden's wish to end his life in a final act of terrorism.


In Washington, U.S. counterterrorism officials were reviewing a transcript of the tape, but said they could not verify it was an authentic message from the terror chief.


While the speaker mentions an apparent intention to die in the coming year and uses some rhetoric similar to bin Laden's, officials said they could not be certain of the speaker's identity without reviewing the actual recording. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity.


Khan said the agency, which has released previous bin Laden tapes, had used the same sources to check the validity of the new tape. His claims could not be independently verified.


If authentic, the tape would be the latest in a series by bin Laden since the Sept. 11 attacks.


On Tuesday, the Al-Jazeera satellite station aired the purported voice of bin Laden telling his followers to help Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) fight Americans, and U.S. officials claim the message backs Washington's charge that the Iraqi leader has ties to the al-Qaida terror network.


Khan said the new Ansaar tape claims a U.S.-led war on Iraq is a precursor to an invasion of Saudi Arabia.


The speaker also calls for individual attacks against "Americans and Jews" around the world as well as larger acts of terrorism, Khan said.


Khan said the speaker also bragged about how the Sept. 11 attacks took just a few people to create such damage.


Khan said the seller of the tape spoke with a Saudi accent but he declined to say when it was acquired. Khan said Al-Ansaar had held talks with several news organizations about selling the tape and it expected it to be released publicly shortly.


In May 2002, Al-Ansaar released a video of bin Laden which it claimed showed he had survived the U.S. war in Afghanistan (news - web sites). But Al-Jazeera said the tape was filmed before the war even began.


A spokesman for the Foreign Office said the department was unaware of the tape, saying it would need to hear the tape before considering a response.

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Re: Another Bin Laden tape?

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Originally posted by euphorbia
...Bin Laden says he will die sometime this year in an unspecified act of martyrdom...
In order to be the source you must kill the source, or at least that's how they do it on Charmed. So that means if he dies and is not killed by another it will all end with his death.
Yay, the end is in sight.

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