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Well.. so far it doesn't seem to be as big of a thing as they threatened. I must say I have only been cruising the news channels but it seems a bit more lackluster than the marches 12 years ago.
A buddy just called me to see if I could come down to the local one, so far only 10 or 12 people have showed up. (I told him he called the wrong duckie)
Any news in your area?

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I wish I was head of a riot-control squad.

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Nothing going on in Pasrker County, Wonder. Our local liberals probably didn't get the word--or maybe it is too chilly for them to be out and about.

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Here I expect it to draw quite a few people, it starts right away. The last one had about 900 people marching down the main st yelling "FUCK AMERICA". I expect much the same today.

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Most fun will probably be had in Berlin.

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I posted this at another forum in reply to one of those "no blood for oil" drones. I thought it merited being posted here:

"Also, with all your crying about civilian casualties I would think you’d have been screaming to remove Saddam on his human rights violations...lovely little things like torturing children in front of their parents cause one of their parents dared to dissent...and that’s if they are lucky because killing off a man's entire family for infractions is pretty widely practiced, his off spring are just as ruthless. So why aren’t you crying about that? That happens every day with no hope for change less someone comes and helps them. With war at least there is hope of change. I saw a family who made it out of Iraq respond to a question about what they thought about people like you, the mother's eyes welled up while the father said "they should just be quiet, they don’t know what they are talking about. Living under saddam is hell and it is a better death to die from a bomb than to be tortured by Saddam's men."
I have seen others talk about what happened to them, their eyes glass over, and I’ve seen them kick like they were falling in a dream while they relived through memory the nightmare that is Saddam's rule. These are the people who dare to protest, try and start political movements, just verbally dissent. They are killed off right away...no chance unless they live in areas saddam doesn’t control.

You sir are no friend of the Iraqi people. You are a champion of trendy, fashionable politics based in ignorance or limited understanding. If you were honest in your stance and not blinded by your hate for Bush you would welcome change for these people whose suffering you claim to champion.

But I digress."


any protester saying they are protesting in the name of the people of Iraq are grossly deluded...unless by the people of Iraq they mean the current government...imo.

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I think most of the protest here is just "anti-war 1-2-3-4 what are we fighting for" kinda thing. It's not about saving the Iraqians, I mean god sakes this war has nothing to do with the people of Iraq. If it was about "saving" the people it would of been done along time ago.

If this war happens (and it I guess it will) it's gonna be about spitting in the face of the UN. It's gone so absurb now that Bush can't stop his train. If he backs down then he's weak so he has to follow through even if he knows that the UN doesn't back him. He wants justice for his christian's god damnit! But really is it any more right to kill in the name of god then it is to kill in the name of allah? or what ever. War doesn't have to happen, but it will and people will die, mostly Iraq civs beause they all look like the enemy to a 20 yr old with a gun...SHOOT THE RAG HEAD....and such...I should get some sleep I'm babbling.

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I think most of the protest here is just "anti-war 1-2-3-4 what are we fighting for" kinda thing. It's not about saving the Iraqians, I mean god sakes this war has nothing to do with the people of Iraq. If it was about "saving" the people it would of been done along time ago.

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I never said i hated bush either...he make's for great music.

"Oh no, struck by greased lightning , effed by the same last name /
You know what? China ain't never givin back that goddamn plane /
Must got this whole nation trained on some kennel rations - refrain /
The same train, full of cocaine, goes the brain /
Have you forgotten? I've been through the first term of rotten /
The father, the son, and the holy Bush-shit we all in /
Don't look at me, I ain't callin for no assassination /
I'm just sayin, sayin, who voted for that asshole of your nation?"

HE'S THE SON OF BAD MAN!

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/481/public_enemy.html

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Well.. so far it doesn't seem to be as big of a thing as they threatened.

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I was gettin on the bus in Uptown where they're supposed to have a "stand-in" for peace or somethin like that. There wasn't but one guy at the site itself when I was goin by, but I could see folks comin that way. I reckon there'll be a sizeable turnout here and in St Paul at the capitol, but then, this is the Twin Cities and not Lynchburg. We have the third largest university by enrollment in the nation. Surprisingly, the fourth largest, ahead of Arizona, is Miami-Dade Community College.

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An effort in futility by the vocal minority.

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An effort in futility by the vocal minority.

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At any rate...I'm off to the local protest in a few minutes here, I was gonna sleep but I figure this maybe more important.

ummm.....Go Peace!

I'll try not to be slanderous towards americans.

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Yep.

If you don't rate the UN and ignore congress, why the fuck would you consider taking popular opinion into consideration?

Futility indeed.

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Define public.

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well, i only woke up 4 or so hours ago. all i saw on the way to work were a bunch of hippy chicks with glitter on their faces and peace flags and four americans wearing cowboy hats holding a banner that read:

"TEXANS AGAINST THE WAR!"

biggest crowd i saw today were made up of drunk rugby fans. england beat the french. w00t!

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Great game, and the French played as entertaining as ever, shame there weren't more punch ups.

Suspiciously good sport on the BBC today I thought.

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Define public.

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Well today the man on the street seemed to be rather against, if I may say.

Were there protests around your way "More blood for oil" or someit?

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The London march was huge, biggest demonstration ever here, I believe. 500 000 were expected, but the police say that they got at least 750 000 (as normal, the organisers claimed more, but 750 000 is a lot even if it is only that many).

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Well 2 hours in -21 and I think I learned alot. The march was great...eye opening...I won't go off on it all but I'll just say I think it was worth it.

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