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Last week I got a phone call from the National Republican Congressional Committee. A mont or so ago, I had gotten a poll/letter from them which I went to town on and sent back so they called me to see if I would be willing to answer a bunch more of their polls/questionaires.
SUUURE!!! I love to rant and pontificate about.... whatever.

So I just hobbled out to check the mail and here's this big ole manilla envelop from Congressman Tom De Lay's office.
Inside, I get a letter from Tom (yeah, we be homeys now I guess) and some forms to fill out and an award certificate.
NATIONAL LEADERSHIP AWARD it says.
It also says that I am an OFFICIAL Co-Chairman of the Republican Business Advisory Council.
It has to be official because it has a big ole gold seal on it and is personally signed by Tom De Lay's computer!

Buuuuut WAIT! There's MORE!!!!!!!

I also got *drum roll* a full color 8x10 glossy photo of Dubya!

Since I now have Bush in my pocket, I suggest you all start treating me with a shitload of awe and respect. I wouldn't hesitate to have ANY of your neighborhoods carpet bombed.
And *I* don't need no stinkin' UN resolution either.

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Aw, how cute. I bet you got all excited when you got your membership to the AARP too.

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I just love pullin' dem pranks on da jackass. He's so gullible. O' course, he wouldn't be da jackass if'n he wuzn't.

Amen.

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You've gone to the Dark Side.

Use The Force! Resist!!!

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Whenever I try to treat you with respect, JEB laughs at me for it.

Not this time bud.

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Oh, sorry Bill O'Reilly was on and of course Hannity and... the other guy, follows. Ya can't miss them.

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and so now, who's left?

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The rest of Asylum save 5 or 6 people. Fortunately, wonderaz tips the scale in our direction given his now esteemed position.

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Since most of us are centrists, it only takes one or two from either side to tip the teetertotter one way or the other.

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I'd dispute your assertion that most are centrists. Aside from the libertarians, who don't fit on the traditional left-right scale, I'd guess less than 25% here would identify as moderates or centrists.

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It would be interesting if we could do a set of comparison polls on where everyone considers themselves to be on the political spectrum verses where everyone else thinks that they are. I consider myself to be center, though I'd bet that quite a few would place me somewhere between center and left.

From what I see out there, I think that most on the forum are fairly centrist; but the most vocal and outspoken ones are from either the left or the right.

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Didn't you recently self-identify as somewhere left of center?

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Not precisely. It was just a hairsbreadth left of center, not far enough so as not to be labeled center.

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I would beg to differ with your self exclaimed 'centrist' view billgerat.
No, I'm not speaking from your posting of "Lets laugh at Dubya, email list" that you love to share with us, just your vehement attitude, and your posts therein.
I might shake my head at some of the directions our current president has been taking but you seem to relish trying to rub others noses in it. From his simple annunciation of nuclear to the latest interpretation of what 'insights' you gather from the latest speech.
I don't happen to agree with the concept of war but I also don't see how the latest actions of Iraq can't warrant some sort of action on anyones part. What point is there to have a U.N.?
Is it just a hatred of our President? If you feel he isn't supposed to be there you should try and change the electoral vote system. All the votes in FL won't change that fact.

PS. I don't agree with the electoral system, it's an outdated system that, in my opinion, made sense at the time with an ignorant persons that filled the US at the time. That was without modern systems that informs the public and the standard of ignorance at the time.
PPS. Socialism is also crap. Fine idea but who is in charge? absolute power corrupts.

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Or to put it a different way, G, if Left is 0 and Right is 10, I'd say I'm about 4.9.

Fiend, yes, I have no love for Bush, and for most of his political pals either. The good most of them showed their hypocrisy during and after the Clinton impeachment farce. I am vehement in my comments about them mostly because craven hypocrisy and political clowns like Dubya really tick me off.

However, there are Republicans I do respect, such as McCain and Alexander. While I may not always agree with their ideas, I can see that they are usually well thought out and of honest intent. They are respectable men. If they were chosen by the party to run for the presidency there would be a good chance that I'd vote for them over the Democratic candidate.

And changing the electoral system is not necessarily a panacea. While it has its drawbacks, it does have some positive effects. No one system will be a perfect demonstration of voter intent.

It may suprise some of you but I once was a Nixon supporter (not really so suprising considering the numbnuts that ran against him).

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Ok, I'll take a stab at this -- mostly taken from the list of people with more than 1000 posts. Feel free to re-orient yourself, or suggest others I've left out. I know, I know, very unscientific and it's unkind to label people. Tough shit.


Somewhere Left of Center

absolut
Agoust
billgerat
BlueOx
bowmore
cornelius
Buddha's Penis
CRSR
Czech
Dacarlo
Feral Automaton
flocat
Fuhqall
Goatboy
Gorilla Biscuit
greenleakynipples
Hedonism
iglo
karen
Inky
lauren000
Lightbulb
Lu
macker
missphinx
mmmtravis
morgana
morgasm
mudded
Nutrimentia
Oath of Office
Pinecrika
redguard
Roshigoth
skalie
slight
SocialParasite
Spaceboy
Tak
Thimble
Vegas
WeaselSpoor


Somewhere Right of Center

3MTA3
CAL
Deadpool
Dead Inside
DevilMoon
Emerald
euphorbia
GFY
Itch
JEB
MstrG
Mugtoe
nymbus
oxsan
Princess Chelle
Sabine
squee
splAt
torque
tigerjezz
wonderaz

Centrist/Moderate

ADHD (lean right)
bunkum (lean right)
Cage
Dingle
FunkyRooster (lean right)
SmugGit
urbanjunkie
WastedP

Libertarian

ChipsJr
Fiend
MAC
PaintCHiPs
Zim

Edit: breakdown is 42 - 21 - 8 - 5

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OK. I can accept that - as your view. (And by your own list, the Left outweighs the Right, even with the Center added to it.) But I'd like to see everyone else on that list do the same for each of those listed. The logistics are too much to ever make this a practible exercise. But I think it would be interesting to see the results if it were possible.

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I would like to contest GFY being "somewhere right of center." GFY has gone beyond "right of center" and passed on through to "rabid ape, screaming at the masses and flinging its own excrement at anyone who disagrees."

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Im called a liberal on the freerepublic, I guess my common sense based stances that fall in line with stances they share dont make me even a moderate.

On POTP and here I am called right wing...in the face of my very very liberal stances.

Neither group wants me

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I would like to contest GFY being "somewhere right of center." GFY has gone beyond "right of center" and passed on through to "rabid ape, screaming at the masses and flinging its own excrement at anyone who disagrees."

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bowmore
cornelius
FunkyRooster
Lightbulb
Sabine
urbanjunkie


of these I either dont know about their stances enough to be able to tell or I think they flip flop from side to side or are in the middle.

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and since morde didnt make the list I claim him for my team!!

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