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skalie
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U.S. Diplomat's Letter of Resignation

I don't believe that this chap is anti-American, do you?

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The following is the text of John Brady Kiesling's letter of resignation to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell. Mr. Kiesling is a career diplomat who has served in United States embassies from Tel Aviv to Casablanca to Yerevan.

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I am writing you to submit my resignation from the Foreign Service of the United States and from my position as Political Counselor in U.S. Embassy Athens, effective March 7. I do so with a heavy heart. The baggage of my upbringing included a felt obligation to give something back to my country. Service as a U.S. diplomat was a dream job. I was paid to understand foreign languages and cultures, to seek out diplomats, politicians, scholars and journalists, and to persuade them that U.S. interests and theirs fundamentally coincided. My faith in my country and its values was the most powerful weapon in my diplomatic arsenal.

It is inevitable that during twenty years with the State Department I would become more sophisticated and cynical about the narrow and selfish bureaucratic motives that sometimes shaped our policies. Human nature is what it is, and I was rewarded and promoted for understanding human nature. But until this Administration it had been possible to believe that by upholding the policies of my president I was also upholding the interests of the American people and the world. I believe it no longer.

The policies we are now asked to advance are incompatible not only with American values but also with American interests. Our fervent pursuit of war with Iraq is driving us to squander the international legitimacy that has been America’s most potent weapon of both offense and defense since the days of Woodrow Wilson. We have begun to dismantle the largest and most effective web of international relationships the world has ever known. Our current course will bring instability and danger, not security.

The sacrifice of global interests to domestic politics and to bureaucratic self-interest is nothing new, and it is certainly not a uniquely American problem. Still, we have not seen such systematic distortion of intelligence, such systematic manipulation of American opinion, since the war in Vietnam. The September 11 tragedy left us stronger than before, rallying around us a vast international coalition to cooperate for the first time in a systematic way against the threat of terrorism. But rather than take credit for those successes and build on them, this Administration has chosen to make terrorism a domestic political tool, enlisting a scattered and largely defeated Al Qaeda as its bureaucratic ally. We spread disproportionate terror and confusion in the public mind, arbitrarily linking the unrelated problems of terrorism and Iraq. The result, and perhaps the motive, is to justify a vast misallocation of shrinking public wealth to the military and to weaken the safeguards that protect American citizens from the heavy hand of government. September 11 did not do as much damage to the fabric of American society as we seem determined to so to ourselves. Is the Russia of the late Romanovs really our model, a selfish, superstitious empire thrashing toward self-destruction in the name of a doomed status quo?

We should ask ourselves why we have failed to persuade more of the world that a war with Iraq is necessary. We have over the past two years done too much to assert to our world partners that narrow and mercenary U.S. interests override the cherished values of our partners. Even where our aims were not in question, our consistency is at issue. The model of Afghanistan is little comfort to allies wondering on what basis we plan to rebuild the Middle East, and in whose image and interests. Have we indeed become blind, as Russia is blind in Chechnya, as Israel is blind in the Occupied Territories, to our own advice, that overwhelming military power is not the answer to terrorism? After the shambles of post-war Iraq joins the shambles in Grozny and Ramallah, it will be a brave foreigner who forms ranks with Micronesia to follow where we lead.

We have a coalition still, a good one. The loyalty of many of our friends is impressive, a tribute to American moral capital built up over a century. But our closest allies are persuaded less that war is justified than that it would be perilous to allow the U.S. to drift into complete solipsism. Loyalty should be reciprocal. Why does our President condone the swaggering and contemptuous approach to our friends and allies this Administration is fostering, including among its most senior officials. Has “oderint dum metuant” really become our motto?

I urge you to listen to America’s friends around the world. Even here in Greece, purported hotbed of European anti-Americanism, we have more and closer friends than the American newspaper reader can possibly imagine. Even when they complain about American arrogance, Greeks know that the world is a difficult and dangerous place, and they want a strong international system, with the U.S. and EU in close partnership. When our friends are afraid of us rather than for us, it is time to worry. And now they are afraid. Who will tell them convincingly that the United States is as it was, a beacon of liberty, security, and justice for the planet?

Mr. Secretary, I have enormous respect for your character and ability. You have preserved more international credibility for us than our policy deserves, and salvaged something positive from the excesses of an ideological and self-serving Administration. But your loyalty to the President goes too far. We are straining beyond its limits an international system we built with such toil and treasure, a web of laws, treaties, organizations, and shared values that sets limits on our foes far more effectively than it ever constrained America’s ability to defend its interests.

I am resigning because I have tried and failed to reconcile my conscience with my ability to represent the current U.S. Administration. I have confidence that our democratic process is ultimately self-correcting, and hope that in a small way I can contribute from outside to shaping policies that better serve the security and prosperity of the American people and the world we share.

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Wow. What he said.

That's a pretty impressive piece of writing.

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Christ.

That's worrying. A career diplomat who would have been priy to all sorts of shenanigans throughout the cold war and now he can't stomach his own administration. Does anyone else find that disturbing?

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Would yo be so kind as to provide your source for this. I'm curious to see in what context this was present for the consumption of the public. It sounds like a rather personal resignation, since I usually write form ones, one not meant for display, so I'd like to know what means the journalist (I assume) came across it.

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I am also curious as to the veracity of this.

If it is genuine, then it is concerning, but it could easily just be a hoax.

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He might of course be a junior diplomat; I'm not finding much on google about this. References to the fact that he is political counselor, but nothing about his resignation. Of course, he might well want this to be public, if it is his letter.

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New York Times

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quote:
Originally posted by Phil
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What has your boyfirends arse got to do with this?

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I have no idea. hehehe. I blame the cut n paste highlighting features of Linux

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/27/i...&partner=GOOGLE

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&l...gns&sa=N&tab=wn

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Well, it certainly appears to be genuine.

It will be interesting to see what sort of coverage this gets.

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That's probably it as far as coverage.

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Interesting. My apologies for questioning the validity of the above. What I'm surprised about is how difficult it was to find (okay, google) to begin with.

This is a bombshell. A diplomat, with 20 years experience, resigns in utter disgust of the current administration, and I can't find a mention on CNN, FOXnews or ABC. Hell, i can't find a mention on salon--I'd have expected them to jump on it like a foreign legionnaire on a stray hooker.

Oh, my dear fourth estate, you never cease to amaze me with your bias and disgust me with you self imposed censorship.

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quote:
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This is a bombshell...... and I can't find a mention on CNN, FOXnews or ABC.


hardly a surprise really. It probably is there somewhere, just relegated editorial though.

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quote:
Originally posted by scatmonkey
Interesting. My apologies for questioning the validity of the above.


Don't apologise, fucked if I could find a back-up either.

Kudo's to Phil.

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This is the kind of stuff which scares me...proof that our policy is seems to be more of a personal agenda than in the interests of the American public. Why do I feel powerless to change this? Maybe we need to take the protesting to another level. Russia seems to be taking a hard stance on this as they are threatening to veto the resolution to go to war. Go Russia!!

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I found several stories by typin him into the Yahoo News Search engine. He's a career diplomat and political counselor. He's also written a lot about the historical monuments in Armenia. He's a history nerd and kind of a geek who seems to reflect what runs through a lot of the State Dept.

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J. Brady Kiesling, political officer at the U.S. embassy in Athens, said in a letter to Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) that Bush's policies are "driving us to squander the international legitimacy that has been America's most potent weapon" for the past century.


The letter was quoted by the New York Times. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher confirmed that Powell had received a letter from Kiesling.


"This is a place where people have all kinds of ways of expressing their views," Boucher said. "It's too bad the gentleman didn't feel he could continue in the Foreign Service, given his views. But these things happen."


A State Department official, speaking privately, said the views among department officials about Iraq tend to mirror the same divisions present in American society as a whole.


Kiesling has been a diplomat for about 20 years and had postings in the Middle East, Armenia and Greece.


In 1994, Kiesling received the William R. Rivkin Award "for constructive dissent" from the American Foreign Service Association, the professional organization of the U.S. Foreign Service.


The award recognizes midlevel officers "who have demonstrated the courage to challenge the system from within, no matter the issue or the consequences of their actions."


At the time of the Bosnian war a decade ago, several State Department official resigned because they felt the United States was not doing enough to prevent the Serb slaughter of Muslims in that conflict.

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quote:
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This is a bombshell.




No, I dont think so.
And if his biggest problem is "we are losing friends" I say good riddance because in matters of security that should matter none.
What was his agenda as a member of our government I wonder?
He was supposed to be working for us, in our interests...thats what the government does and on this matter of security he seems to be more concerned with pissing off the french and the like...I say fuck him...buh-bye.


oh, and this is just stupid:
quote:
arbitrarily linking the unrelated problems of terrorism and Iraq.


arbitrary nothing we know he trains or trained and aids terrorist groups...that isnt even a question.

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It would seem he has a fairly strong left leaning. As phorb pointed out in her post, he really isn't calling his shots well and over and above all the peace marchers, he should know that there has been a long time connection between Saddam and various terrorist groups.

Looks like he wanted to go out with a bang.

Bye.

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I don't wish to start a major argument on this one, but way back when two towers fell many limeys complained that if America wanted to seriously combat terrorism it had to, for example, stop allowing funding for the IRA from within its borders etc.

When saying this, we were often shouted down that Bush was interested only in terrorism 'of a global reach' (quote from a Bush speech I believe). As such it was said in here that the irish problem was a domestic one and not international in any form whatsoever. So simple question really, but how is the funding of Hamas different? Hamas as I understand it is a group that is interested in only the domestic political arena of the Israel/Palestine conflict. It attacks Israeli targets alone in its objective of bringing a resolution to the conflict through the use of paramilitary force.

So, why is Saddam Hussein funding Hamas different from tacit IRA support by the US, and funding from legally allowed organisations in the US (NORAID)? Why is this not considered a double standard?

Just curious.

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quote:
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No, I dont think so.
And if his biggest problem is "we are losing friends" I say good riddance because in matters of security that should matter none.



Friends = allies, and I should say that in matters of security that matters much. I guess that he is just questioning whether the push for action NOW! is costing too much political capital to be worth the candle. Where do you get from his letter that he is 'left-leaning', wonder? Or is it something that you know from outside the letter?

Just because a guy resigns like this doesn't make action on Iraq wrong; I agree with action on Iraq, but I also agree with pretty much everything that he said, in that I don't think that this whole thing is being conducted with great skill or forethought. I am not the only pro-war person who has these reservations; as I said before, all of the pro-war limeys that I know feel the same. Really, his letter just relates to the cost to the US, in terms of its diplomatic relations with other countries and also its 'moral capital', of pursuing the policy that it is pursuing in the way that it is pursuing it. For me, from my position in favour of military action, I still agree with him.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phil
I don't wish to start a major argument on this one....
Kind of hard to do that. One would have to be a fool if they didn't see a valid similarity.

So, why is Saddam Hussein funding Hamas different from tacit IRA support by the US, and funding from legally allowed organisations in the US (NORAID)? Why is this not considered a double standard?

Just curious.

It is a double standard. What was taking place on your turf is no different from what is happening in Israel.
Not cool.

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