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I choked on my coffee this morning listening to President-selected Bush suggest that nations that were in support of peace and prosperity need to do the right thing and go to war. I'd commend him on saying it with a straight face if I thought he was capable of seeing how backasswards it was.

He accuses the French of showing their cards and thus emasculating the potential of diplomatic progress, but he is the one who has always said that the UN isn't important, we don't its permission, we are going to war with or without it. He further suggests that the UN must exercise its vote in favor of invading another country for the sole purpose of disposing of its leader or risk become 'irrelevant' yet he fails to see that his admission that the UN doesn't matter has destroyed the situation. For the UN to be relevant it must agree wiht what the United States is going to do? That's rediculous.

If Bush truly cared about the relevance of the UN he wouldn't have set it up in a lose-lose situation. I don't know if the destruction of the UN and our obligations (yes, we do have obligations to the international community) therein was part of the initial intent of this Wolfovitz-inspired dung-flinging power play, but I could easily believe that once they figured out they could dupe the American people into supporting an illegal war, get back at Saddam while making it look like they were improving the security of the US and making advances in the war on terror, AND dismantle the shackles of cooperative jurisdiction over the world, effectively leaving the United States as the sole Might-makes-Right new kid on the block, they happily chalked up the latter realization to 'collateral damage'.

Thank to anyone who read this. I'm sure that these issues have been covered in other threads and that my perspective is easily dismissable as tired, stale, ignorant, emotional, liberal, whiny, commie, partisan, burned-out, naive, idealistic, and idiotic. Thanks for letting me express myself here, and feel free to continue going about your business of justifiying what we are about to do.

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Thank to anyone who read this. I'm sure that these issues have been covered in other threads and that my perspective is easily dismissable as tired, stale, ignorant, emotional, liberal, whiny, commie, partisan, burned-out, naive, idealistic, and idiotic. Thanks for letting me express myself here, and feel free to continue going about your business of justifiying what we are about to do.

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I choked on my coffee this morning listening to President-selected Bush suggest that nations that were in support of peace and prosperity need to do the right thing and go to war.

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George Orwell was a prophet. Like many prophets, his words are subject to interpretation, and his timetable was a bit off.

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I choked on my coffee this morning listening to President-selected Bush

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