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so, basically phil what you're saying is...

..........that you do not agree with Bush and Blairs reasoning behind the invasion of Iraq in regards to:

- liberating the people of Iraq
- Weapons of Mass Destruction


They are going in there for the oil (for the benefit of the worlds economy) and to stablise the region *now*, to eliminate any possbility of Saddam doing something in the future - even if he may not actually pose a threat right this second. Its better to second guess him and take him out now.

You do however agree with the UK supporting the US because lets say you're a kid playing in the street with a bunch of other kids its best to hang around with the kid whos holding a baseball bat whos slightly taller and bigger than the rest (i dont think i'm suggesting the US is a bully - just that if the big kid is gonna 'run the street' its best to side with him than the weaker kids who cant even skateboard).

yeah, its a pretty crude 'theory in a nutshell' but if i misunderstood your perspective on this war - please do explain to an uneducated fool who would like to get off the middle of the fence and commit himself to being for or against it.

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crude but succinct. Get off the fence.

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I think its called Realpolitik

And it works

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It works so well that you can do it while telling your population that you are doing something else, or the same thing for different reasons (that play better to the masses).

This isn't news, though. And that doesn't make it right, either.

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what is in ones interests is not by necessity always 'right' but it is always best.

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what is in ones interests is not by necessity always 'right' but it is always best.


If you define 'best = most in one's interest', yes.

Otherwise, not necessarily; it depends on how you define 'best', and, indeed, 'good'.

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Or, indeed, how you define 'define'

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Or, indeed, how you define 'define'


Who shaves the barber of Seville?

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Hitler does, because adding that dash of Nazi spice can only improve a thread that has reached these lofts.

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quote:
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Nazi spice


The replacement for Ginger?

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I heard they were reforming. Now that is a weapon of mass destruction.

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Stalin Spice has absolutely humongous tits, I've heard.

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Stalin Spice has absolutely humongous tits, I've heard.


jesus, that sounds like something that fat tongued mockey twat Jamie Oliver would cook!

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phil, i'm off that fence by the way.....

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