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Peter_Torque
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Registered: May 2002
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Don't bother. I just went through this thread from beginning to end. What a piece of shit. MstrG censored the fuck out of it. I guess people were having fun. Can't have that in anyplace called the "Asylum," now can we?

Besides a linked Homer Simpson picture, EVERY SINGLE PICTURE I posted was censored, whether it was "porn" or not. Every goddamn one. I posted a picture of a CARTOON, for cryin' out loud! What is "porn" about a goddamn cartoon? Or a woman with her back to you, shooting a gun at a target? Would that really corrupt someone?

Delicate little flower, ain't ya?

The common denominator seems to be that every picture (except the one of my dick) was funny.

So that she-male's uncircumsized cock dangling in the breeze on the first page of this thread, or puffy's gaping anus is okay, but anything larger than an acorn gets the axe from the local moral majority, is that it? Sure says volumes. (Censoring another person's penis is as good as admitting you're hung like a chipmunk.)

From the FAQ:

"5. Can I really say whatever I want?

One of the major reasons most of us left the other forum was due to censorship. We do not believe in censorship in any shape or form, except for the extreme cases listed above. However, if you decide to post a highly thoughtless post on how great Hitler was and how we should examine the benefits of slavery, don't be surprised if someone like Paint CHiPs launches a series of highly personal, cutting and amazingly articulate insults at you. So I guess it just depends on how you look at it. You can say VERY little that would force the moderators to take action against you, but if you run around like an arrogant little shit, people won't like you. "

Anybody who doubts this thread is a monument to one cowardly prick's lack of humor and inability to recognize people simply having fun, click that "first page" link and start reading.

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MstrG
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Cry me a river, Kewpie.

This was explained before, but I guess you weren't paying attention (as if you could tear yourself away from self-aggrandizement long enough to understand the concept.)

Step 1: Proceed to http://www.asylumnation.com/asylum/asylum_images.php

Step 2: Scroll to the bottom of the page.

Step 3: Find the block of text beneath the word "NOTICE!!!".

Step 4: Read the text in the block, paying particular attention to "- No Porn! -".

Step 5: Heed.

You see, when Dingle first built the Asylum Image Bin for the benefit of the members, we were hosted in a facility that would have booted us quickly for carrying porn images. After a few months, I went through the Image Bin and removed any prohibited content. You were not the only person that had images removed, there were several. That your images seemed to be singled out should be no surprise. You were the heaviest user (along with JEB), and you uploaded a lot of porn to it, ignoring the instructions.

We have a different hosting arrangement now, though we haven't yet determined all the rules. If it turns out similar standards apply, you can expect we will once again go through the Image Bin, as well as attachments, and delete anything that could jeopardize our existence.

Nothing prevents you, or anyone else, from hosting those images yourself and linking them on Asylum.

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Peter_Torque
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quote:
Originally posted by MstrG
Cry me a river, Kewpie.

This was explained before, but I guess you weren't paying attention (as if you could tear yourself away from self-aggrandizement long enough to understand the concept.)

... You were the heaviest user (along with JEB), and you uploaded a lot of porn to it, ignoring the instructions.




You never said a damn thing about that, even when I went on IRC (only twice since I've been around) to ask you directly about it. Explained before? Where? When? You wouldn't even address the issue at the time. Talk about self-aggrandizement, I'm not the one trying to turn this place into my personal clique.

Every single picture I posted in this thread was censored. (Again, besides Homer.) I don't know who taught you what porn is (I shudder to think) but this:



and this;



Aren't porn, unless you're totally devoid of a sense of humor. (There's plenty more, should you want to try to skate the issue. Again.)

Act like a man, at least. I came directly to you and asked, and you just shifted blame to somebody else.

Besides, it sure doesn't explain that pesky comment in the FAQ about "We do not believe in censorship in any shape or form..." does it?

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We can still link to pics of prolapsed rectums from elsewhere, yes? I'd hate to lose that functionality.

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Peter_Torque
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The only reason I didn't get pissed off about this before was I didn't know the weasel had deleted every fucking picture in the thread, without even talking to me about it. Apparently, without looking at them either.

Go back and take a look. I started here May 15th. This thread started about a week before you invited me here. You can see somewhere around page four where I came in, and people's reactions. This is the coolest thread of all time, but people can't see my contributions because they offended MstrG's unicorn heart.

When I just reread the whole thread, it just is absolutely clear what the problem is here, somebody felt a bit "understaffed."



First time the"PRIDE" ever scared the chickenshit out of anybody.

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RiZZ
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PT rules

but i think G is right this time

edit: the irony.

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erm .. i dont come here that often .. and I only half read / scan read stuff when I am actually here too ... but when the image upload thingy was launched, even I remember that it stipulated no porn ..

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MstrG
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Yep, sonja, and RiZZ. But get him to admit he fucked up by ignoring the instructions.

quote:
Originally posted by Peter_Torque
You never said a damn thing about that, even when I went on IRC (only twice since I've been around) to ask you directly about it.

You can't do anything but laugh at a guy that walks right into a buzzsaw.

Links to excerpted logs from the three days (not two) P_T logged onto our IRC network and joined #wota:

http://asylumnation.com/mstrg/pt_ocd/051602logex.html
http://asylumnation.com/mstrg/pt_ocd/051902logex.html
http://asylumnation.com/mstrg/pt_ocd/052102logex.html

Notice, not once was the "issue" brought up. I'll also be happy to post, with your permission, the one private message between us in IRC (in which the mimic thread was never mentioned.)

Explained before? Where? When?
I can think of at least two other times I raised the point since the mimic thread, in an IoD thread you directed to tack, and in the PH thread.

You wouldn't even address the issue at the time. See above. I also topped this thread to say I was doing it. Notice, I was doing it around the middle of June, not back in May when you came into IRC. Funny that. Makes the point about coming into IRC in May entirely moot since the editing in the Image Bin hadn't happened.

Every single picture I posted in this thread was censored. (Again, besides Homer.)
It may very well be true that all your pics linked to that thread were removed from the Image Bin, if every pic contained adult content. Lu also had pics removed. And JEB. And probably another 15 people or so. I didn't go into that thread to delete, I went into the Image Bin. That had an effect across several threads.

I don't know who taught you what porn is (I shudder to think) but this:
{snip photos}
Aren't porn, unless you're totally devoid of a sense of humor. (There's plenty more, should you want to try to skate the issue. Again.)


I'm not skating at all. It's already been explained why I removed things from the Image Bin. Even cartoons can be rated X or MA by the MPAA, eh?

Act like a man, at least. I came directly to you and asked, and you just shifted blame to somebody else.

No, You did not come directly to me, and tried to lie about it above. What a man you are.

Besides, it sure doesn't explain that pesky comment in the FAQ about "We do not believe in censorship in any shape or form..." does it?

Nothing pesky about it all. As Mugtoe pointed out after your post (and I mentioned in my first one), you're free to park those images on your own host and link them here to your heart's content. You will not be permitted to keep them on our server. I'm sure the Asylum member's hearts are warmed hearing you advocate a position that would see Asylum go away.

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In case some you don't want to wade through all that, the synopsis: P_T claims he came to ask me about "censorship" in the mimic thread back in May 2002, but I didn't start deleting things from the Image Bin until mid-June, 2002.

http://www.asylumnation.com/asylum/...&threadid=21437

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I'll retract my statement about lying Peter, I found a log from 6/16, which is a private message between us. With your permission, I'll post it.

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Peter_Torque
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No need to lie about it, you piece of shit. That thread you just quoted is from three months before I ever visited the Asylum for the first time (check my profile, I joined 5/15/02, that thread is from 2/02) yet you offer it as the only "proof" that I had come to you on IRC two weeks after I had joined, to ask you why you had deleted one picture.

So you are saying that you told me why you censored umpteen posts, by presenting year-old logs of IRC drivel? Why? What does that change? You still censored my posts, you fucking jerk. You pulling out dirty underwear from the bottom of the hamper only proves you're desperately in need of a life. Take your silly logs and stick 'em up your ass.

I let it slide until now, a year later, only because I didn't know you had censored every fucking picture in this thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by Peter_Torque
That thread you just quoted is from three months before I ever visited the Asylum for the first time...

I topped that thread on 6/16.

Take your silly logs and stick 'em up your ass.

That's quite convenient. Deny the only actual proof of the things that have happened.

For the observers: I sent the IRC PM (from 6/16) between us to P_T, using the forum PM system. I won't quote it here without his permission, but I will paraphrase:

Peter asked about the deleted pics.

I explained what I did, why, and that I was still doing it.

I pointed out the "no porn" instruction on the image bin upload page.

Peter said he understood, and wouldn't bring it up again. He apologized for making the mistake.

The conversation was amicable.


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Reposted and paraphrased from a PM. So you get it from the donkeys mouth:

From a completely legal point of view, as long as the content doesn't violate any local laws, I don't have any major objections to it.

However, and this is a fairly big however, the box is ultimately a developement machine of mine and as such might fall under the scrutiny of the company I work for. As such I'd prefer adult content to be kept to a minimum. If I ever should be called up on it I can claim ignorance of the few naughty bits that might exist.

Yeah, wishy washy answer. In short, I trust the admins of the Asylum to keep the content fairly safe, at least pictographically.

PT, you're a cool guy however MstrG followed a policy that they had already stated existed. Under UK law, even cartoons of nekkid birds and nekkidness used as a form of humour count as mature content and the removal of such images was/is perfectly a-ok.

P.S. I reserve the right to clarify my point further tomorrow morning. I'm halfway through a bottle of Bombay Sapphire and I don't really intend to stop.

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quote:
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No need to lie about it, you piece of shit.

So you are saying that you told me why you censored umpteen posts, by presenting year-old logs of IRC drivel? Why? What does that change? You still censored my posts, you fucking jerk. You pulling out dirty underwear from the bottom of the hamper only proves you're desperately in need of a life. Take your silly logs and stick 'em up your ass.

I let it slide until now, a year later, only because I didn't know you had censored every fucking picture in this thread.



For fuck's sake, nobody censored anything, get over it. You can still post anything you want. Just don't expect us to HOST the friggin stuff FOR you when doing so could jeopordize the server we use to host the site itself. Nobody went through this thread and specifically edited the shit out of your posts. We cleared adult content out of the image bin, which we do periodically, and which we said we would do when we first added the attachment/image bin feature. If you would like, we could continue to let you all post anything you like, but, out of fairness to Peter, disallow attachments and image hosting altogether. That's how we did it for over a year anyway. We've certainly never lied about it. The stipulation for FREE ASYLUM HOSTING is plain as day and certainly no secret.

It's the difference between going over to a buddy's house and showing him porn, versus asking him if you can keep it under his bed.

Just suck it up and admit you're being the asshole here.

Geez.

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karen
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peter, as much as I like you, Ive gotta go with G here. They own the site, and arent required to host your stuff.
You can post it here as much as you like; provided that you use your own image host.
I dont see the censorship in it at all. Nor do I see why this would be such a huge problem for anyone.

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skalie
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quote:
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I'm halfway through a bottle of Bombay Sapphire and I don't really intend to stop.


Class.

Never tried it as it goes, a bit pricey, but it certainly looks like a nice compliment to a bottle of tonic.

France's hypermarkets are great sources for cheap gin as it goes, "Old Lady's" was one brand I remember, mainly because I had an "Old Lady's Gin" sticker on the wall of me self-contained mobile home for many moons.

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The Wraith
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quote:
Originally posted by Peter_Torque
...message...


That's ok, I've been censured too. And, I didn't even post pictures TO the asylum server. I hosted them on my own resources and linked to them, here. However, my posts were edited and the IMG tags removed. So, the administration will edit people's posts and "remove" images, even when they aren't located on this server.

It's just a fact of life.

"Nothing prevents you, or anyone else, from hosting those images yourself and linking them on Asylum."

- What you read here by MstrG, is a falsehood.

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What did you post that twisted the knickers Wraith?

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On a second note...

"Nothing prevents you, or anyone else, from hosting those images yourself and linking them on Asylum."

Peter, having seen G say that...I'll provide you a username/password and let you host anything you want on packetmonkey.net. Then, you can link here to your hearts' content. PM me with a password, and I'll have you setup in 5 min.

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Notice he doesn't mention what it was.

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quote:
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What did you post that twisted the knickers Wraith?


Apparently, linking to karen nudes is outside of his "rules".

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