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What do you guys think about these comedians?

As it often is with comedians and comedic actirs, you either like them or you can't stand them, how does everyone feel about the following?

Richard Pryor
George Carlin
John Cleese
Bill Murray
Jim Carrey
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Chris Rock
Steve Martin
Mike Myers

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Richard Pryor
George Carlin
John Cleese
Bill Murray
Jim Carrey
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Chris Rock
Steve Martin
Mike Myers

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eh
rarely really funny
hysterical
*eye roll* he was once funny?
not bad
grandma thinks hes funny...
not funny at all, ever
pretty funny
"bringin' down the house" anyone? yeah, i didn't think so
I love him to pieces

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Richard Pryor
George Carlin
John Cleese
Bill Murray
Jim Carrey
Bill Cosby
Eddie Murphy
Chris Rock
Steve Martin
Mike Myers

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Richard Pryor - Not sure who that is
George Carlin - Idiot
John Cleese - No clue who that is
Bill Murray - Idiot
Jim Carrey - Idiot
Bill Cosby - I like him
Eddie Murphy - I dislike him
Chris Rock - I really dislike him
Steve Martin - Idiot
Mike Myers - No talent idiot

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Caffeine - idiot

You don't know who richard pryor or john cleese are?! Fuck you, i made you watch the holy grail, you know who john cleese is. Even if that didn't register, you ARE harry potter

(john cleese is nearly headless nick)

Richard pryor does fucking suck and isn't funny at all, but you should at least know who he is.

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yeah, he was in superman 3.

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You guys don't think Richard Pryor is funny? What the fuck is the matter with you? I'm not talking Brewster's Millions Richard Pryor, I'm talking stand up Richard Pryor. Same with Eddie Murphy, his standup was fucking great. Sure, he makes a whole lot of shitty movies, but go rent some of his standup from the 80s.

For my money, the best stand up comics were the three generations of Angry Black Comics. Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, and now Chris Rock. Absolute greats, each one of them, in their day.

George Carlin NOW seems sort of derivitave, but that's mostly because George Carlin THEN was not. He's had an incredibly influential, and funny, career.

I didn't even know John Cleese did much stand up, to be honest. I haven't seen any. As a comedic actor, he's class, but not the best, barring Monty Python. Good character actor, with occassional moments of genius, and, again, Monty Python rates off the scale in terms of the history of funny, so anybody involved with that automatically gets a leg up in terms of legacy.

Bill Murray can basically carry any role he wants to in his sleep.

Jim Carrey stand up wasn't great, but was okay. Pretty much the same for his movie career, for that matter.

Bill Cosby was an okay standup. I sort of rate him with Sinbad, though. Which is to say, good at what he does, standup aimed for black middle class parents.

Steve Martin is one of the most talented individuals alive, to be honest (hyperbole, but he is a lot more talented and intelligent than people give him credit for). The Jerk HAS to rate as one of the Top Ten Comedies of All Time, and that in and of itself lands him a place in comedy history, not to mention his standup (which was great), or his work on SNL (which was great), his movies (most of which have been pretty great), and, he's a terrific and highly respected author/screenwriter (LA Story? Bowfinger?)/playwrite, not to mention art collector/critic, and a number of other things. He is as respected in upper crust circles for his Matisse collection and his collection of New Yorker essays as he is for people who appreciate King Tut, the arrow through the head, and The Jerk. He can do it all, a great guy. Sort of reminds of of Wallace Shawn, who most people remember just as being the bald "inconcievable" guy in The Princess Bride, but who has had a really top notch career in other circles (a very talented and prolific playwrite, for one). Obviously, don't get me started on Steve Martin.

Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock, as with Richard Pryor, in their heyday, were as electrifying standups as anything out there.

Mike Myers was a great SNL guy, and has done some okay movies.

I'll add one: Jerry Sienfeld.

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i prefer dave chapelle to any of those "black comics". if we're talking black comics. i don't tend to give people credit for being "groundbreaking". i mean, i recognize their contributions, but that doesn't make them funny. little richard was a big part of making rock and roll, but his music is not good (to me). steve martin i agree with you on, except that he hasn't done much since the early 80's that hasn't been sort of boring.

jerry seinfeld: the show was awesome, probably my favourite tv show ever, and his standup is good but his g-rating hurts him i think. not that comedy must have swearing, but comedy must be able to say anything. depending on the medium, of course.

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bill murray was great in groundhogs day. well the movie was great, his performance was mediocre.

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what about rushmore? WHAT ABOUT RUSHMORE?

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i prefer dave chapelle to any of those "black comics". if we're talking black comics. i don't tend to give people credit for being "groundbreaking". i mean, i recognize their contributions, but that doesn't make them funny. little richard was a big part of making rock and roll, but his music is not good (to me).

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boy oh boy, paint. here's a nugget for you: i don't think i've ever seen a black and white movie that i really liked.
eat that.

also, yeah. dave chapelle is way funnier than chris rock.

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Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
boy oh boy, paint. here's a nugget for you: i don't think i've ever seen a black and white movie that i really liked.
eat that.

also, yeah. dave chapelle is way funnier than chris rock.

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then we're agreed.

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We want... a shrubbery!

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I'm shocked....just shocked, that noone, especially in this forum, has mentioned Bill Hicks. Jeeeesus.

Shame on you all!

Melesse

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This thread disgusts me. I'm beginning to understand why some old people are just plain mean to kids. You all fucking deserve it.

Pryor? Carlin? Jesus Fucking Christ. You're the fucking people who walked out of Lord of the Rings going "Couldn't that Tolkien guy think of anything more original than orcs?" aren't you? And I suppose you think Ford's Model A was so stupid looking that it was pointless.

Eat a fat cock.

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oops, dooble poost

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Originally posted by Buddha's Penis!
boy oh boy, paint. here's a nugget for you: i don't think i've ever seen a black and white movie that i really liked.

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.....not to mention Charlie Chaplin, Laurel and Hardy, and Buster "move" Keaton.

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Originally posted by Melesse
I'm shocked....just shocked, that noone, especially in this forum, has mentioned Bill Hicks. Jeeeesus.

Shame on you all!

Melesse

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1) i just thought of "dead man". great movie. so i'll amend what i said slightly.
2) no, the model a is ugly because it's ugly (i don't really think the model a is ugly, but). i shouldn't be expected to alter my preferences to allow for "history". this is about taste, not showing deference to pioneers. so, in summation, fuck carlin and pryor.

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Richard Pryor-stand-up, i love him. movies, eh.

George Carlin-love him regardless of anything he does.

John Cleese-see above.

Bill Murray-i could go either way here. sometimes I love, other times cant stand him.

Jim Carrey-can be funny. usually is just dumb.

Bill Cosby- funny standup, acting...cute, but not really "funny"

Eddie Murphy-love him.

Chris Rock- love him, although the racial jokes can get a bit old. sometimes hes redundant.

Steve Martin- another that I could go either way on. Usually I adore him, though.

Mike Myers- eh. sometimes funny. Id put him a notch above jim carrey.

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