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Dreamengineer
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Fatal Beating by the Cincinnati cops

I am just reading an article in todays independent
about a couple of coppers bashing up an un-armed black man
it does state in the report his blood was found to contain cocaine and PCP
OK what did they do shoot him down? that man must have been as high as a kite!!
secondly and more importantly I didnt think inbred fuckhead racist cops were in Ohio??

there is alledgedly a video somewhere I will link to it when I find it

surely this is going to fuel more activists?

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I hope not. The man was high on cocaine and PCP. As far as his brain was concerned he was an invincible man-tank.

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Re: Fatal Beating by the Cincinnati cops

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surely this is going to fuel more activists?

I hope it does - activist cops demanding their right to beat the fuck out of hopped-up, insolent assholes.

And the video is playing frequently on tv here.

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Cincinatti had race riots earlier this year related to white cop brutality or shooting blacks to death or something.

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They've had an ongoing problem with it. This is not one of those cases.

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i think this is a case where the cops are in the right. its not a race issue, it's an issue of officers needing to protect themselves

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He
was high, 400lb and he attacked them.


Doesn't seem race related.

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i believe there are fuckhead racists everywhere. some of them will be cops. it's possible that they may have originally been simple fuckheads, but a life of copping with no real critical thinking skills has made them racist.

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heh

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Also said he died of his heart condition I think, not the beating.

Of course, a beating can be a heart condition.

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and yeah, this is not really a matter of racists fuckheads.

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Death of 350-Pound Man Being Investigated
Mon Dec 1, 6:30 PM ET

CINCINNATI - A 350-pound black man died after being clubbed repeatedly by police in a videotaped beating that stoked racial tensions in Cincinnati nearly three years after the city was rocked by riots.

The mayor said Monday that the videotape showed that the nightstick-wielding officers were defending themselves.

The cause of Nathaniel Jones' death on Sunday was under investigation. But preliminary autopsy results showed that the 41-year-old man had an enlarged heart, and his blood contained cocaine and PCP, or "angel dust," both of which can cause bizarre or aggressive behavior, Hamilton County Coroner Carl Parrott said.

Black activists said Jones' death was another example of brutality by Cincinnati police. The fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white officer in April 2001 set off three nights of rioting.

"How many of our people have to die before the city decides to do something about it?" said Nathaniel Livingston Jr. of the Coalition for a Just Cincinnati.

The videotape from a police cruiser's camera showed two white police officers landing at least a half dozen blows with their nightsticks on Jones and tackling him, while shouting at him to put his hands behind his back. But the tape also showed Jones lunging at one of the officers.

The officers who were at the scene — five whites and one black — were placed on administrative leave, which is standard procedure.

After seeing the video, Mayor Charlie Luken rejected activists' demand that he force Police Chief Thomas Streicher Jr. to resign.

"What I saw was a 400-pound man violently attacking a police officer in a manner that put the lives of police officers at risk," Luken said. "While the investigations will continue, there is nothing on those tapes to suggest that the police did anything wrong."

An employee at a fast-food restaurant had called 911 early Sunday to report that a man had passed out on the grass outside. Emergency personnel arrived and reported that the man was awake and "becoming a nuisance," according to police radio transmissions.

The first two officers to arrive, Baron Osterman and James Pike, were shown on the video striking Jones after he was warned to stay back. Jones then lunged at one of the two officers and knocked him down. The officers kept yelling, "Put your hands behind your back!" as they struggled to handcuff him.

They called for an ambulance when Jones appeared to be in distress. He died within minutes of arriving at the hospital, Assistant Chief Richard Janke said.

The Cincinnati chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (news - web sites) called for changes in police use of force.

"If proper procedure means that you can use that kind of force to clobber people repeatedly who are clearly disarmed, then there's something wrong with the policy," said Calvert Smith, chapter president.

Black activist groups staged an economic boycott of Cincinnati after the 2001 shooting of Timothy Thomas, 19, who was wanted on charges of fleeing police. Officer Stephen Roach shot him in a dark alley and was later cleared at trial of criminal charges.

A federal investigation of that shooting, requested by the city, resulted in a 2002 agreement by the city to tighten policies regarding use of force and to improve handling of citizen complaints against the police.

Last February, a white officer chased and fatally shot a black man who was spotted running from a store that had been broken into. Police, prosecutors and a citizen review panel concluded the shooting was justified because the suspect was beating the officer with his nightstick
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Maybe if he wasn't as high as a kite on angel dust and charlie and didn't attack the cops he wouldent have gotten forcibly restrained.

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Here: http://www.local6.com/news/2672416/detail.html

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And as you watch the tape, notice where the the blows from the nightsticks aren't going, i.e., all non-lethal blows, nothing to the head, kidneys, etc.

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OK well another case of mistyped typical newspaper bollocks
this english press arent very fooking helpful

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Doesn't matter if the cops where defending themselves or not, Jessie Jackson and Reverned Al will still get in front of the camera at some point and start flinging the racial shit around like shriners throwing peppermints at a parade. It's inevitable and they Always do it no matter what.

If you may remember the Rodney King case. He was strung out on PCP but that didn't stop folks from getting all bent stupid out of shape over it.

People will bitch and harp for a long time to come about this or any other case where a black guy gets beat down for resisting arrest. If they don't, how else will people like journalists, civil rights lawyers, and the like justify their paychecks?

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The police beat the shit out of Rodney King after he was subdued, which is why they were chickenshit; what they did up till he was subdued wasn't the problem, it was pointlessly beating the guy when he was down. If you have to beat a man who can't defend himself, you're a cunt, in my opinion. We can all understand why people might be angry or hyped up enough to do it, but that doesn't make it anything other than chickenshit, which is basically cowardice.

I haven't seen where the fatal blows were delivered to this guy, so I can't judge what the truth of this Cincinatti case is. Some people are bound to die struggling with the police even without the police overstepping the bounds, so you guys who have seen the fatal blows delivered will know (there were six cops there at the time, I understand) better than I do what the truth of this case is. But the Rodney King beating, for all that King was a scumbag, wasn't right.

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When your body is under stress it releases chemicals into your blood, some of which can be fatal in high doses or if you've got a serious illness. Whenever we have to place a client in a MANDT hold or a physical restraint they then have to be under observation for at least 24 hours because some of them have been let out of a restraint and were just fine until they suddenly dropped dead a few hours later.

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well said, smug git.

giving the guy a whoopin was no problem, he deserved it. but they didn't stop beating on him when they should have.

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I haven't seen the video, but most 41 year old 400 pound men aren't in great condition, so it could have been something related to that, I guess. I guess we'll know soon enough.

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"It's cos i is black!" To quote.

Say for instance this same fate fell upon a mullet doning alabama redneck?(which probably has but you don't hear shit 'bout it) The police were doing their job and without regard for the color of the perp. It's the whole race issue rearing it's ugly head and I'm sick to the fucking back of my teeth from reading and hearing about it.

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I haven't seen the video, but most 41 year old 400 pound men aren't in great condition...

Yes, the prelimary autopsy results also noted an enlarged heart, along with the drugs. There was bruising along his right side, but nothing on the head.

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