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Tefl
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Post Bitch Slap needed!

I wrote this letter to Wonderaz earlier but the mail came back. Since I could not raise him on MiRC I've decided to post this letter in hopes that a Bitch-Slap vote can be taken.

Wonder,
I'm writing to you because you are one of the top dogs at the Asylum, and the guy that invited me to check it out. Last night I was hacked by garycoleman. While in #wota, I was trying out a new MS Agent version of MiRC for the first time. Gary started fucking with me and I told him off. First he tried to boot me and then made some joke about messing with my program. That was followed immediatly by the address of my MiRC file flashing twice on my screen and Access Denied behind it. I then hopped offline. Today, when I cranked up MiRC, everytime I would type something, a string of numbers would appear behind what I said. Also, two seperate, Coherent lines appeared using my nick without me ever typing it!! I've had to delete the copy because I no longer trusted it. I don't know what he did or how but I believe he is responsible for whatever it was going on!
My point is, I'd like to see garycoleman banned! I know that I haven't been around but a couple of months but it's not right to do some shit like that! (Especially because I refused to play him in chess!! That's childish!) I don't know if you can do that or not but please put the notion forward to the other moderators. I'm personally mad as hell over it and would like to see him reprimanded in some way.
Thanks for your time,

Timeenoughforlove


If you think that gary has seriously fucked up, I'd like your support on this people! Are you going to stand idely by and let someone hack you when they feel like it? Let the moderaters know how you feel on this subject!

I apologize in advance if this causes a stink but something needs to be done.




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Ahhh...Gary, Gary, Gary! You adorable little scamp! Oh how I've missed your crazy antics!

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With all due respect to everyone involved, please understand, TEFL, that it is not my part to get involved in something like this. I would suggest talking with wonder, paint, MstG, or JEB in regards to it.

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Method Dan
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I second this motion. I have not been hacked yet (to my knowledge), but I find gary to generally be an annoying, infantile, useless little shit. He dislikes me and harasses me constantly because he believes I am gay, and a goth, and hence believes I am a liar because I represent myself as what I am, a heterosexual punk rocker, rather than play into what he thinks I should be. He has the social skills and mental capacity of a preschooler, and I doubt anyone likes him or particularly wants him around. I would have nuked him long ago, but I was under the impression that this would be intolerable. But since nothing has been done about his hacking of TEFL, I get the feeling he would not be missed.

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SocialParasite
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Gary has been banned before . . . Hell followed shortly after. Anybody remember our Dark Tree days, back in the days of the Whores of the Stile Project? Remember the constant server hopping?

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SP's got a point..

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from what i have heard banning him would be extremely difficult
spoofing ips and proxy servers and all of that

good luck

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I read through the log and it appears there may have been someone else behind whatever happened TEFL ... I'll contact you and others about it.

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quote:
Originally posted by SocialParasite:
Gary has been banned before . . . Hell followed shortly after. Anybody remember our Dark Tree days, back in the days of the Whores of the Stile Project? Remember the constant server hopping?




what was I banned from?

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You weren't banned from anything. I was using Hell as in: "Oh, this place has really gone to Hell."

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Was it something you would do for anybody?
Was it what you'd only do for me?
Or was it something where you acted when you saw the need
And knew that there would be a way the act could be repaid
And so it may, but for today
I want to thank you for putting me back in my snail shell

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Message received this morning TEFL. Sorry I missed you last night but as you can see a mod has heard. MstrG is on it. I'm not sure what email you used but you (or anyone else) can store this addy if you need it.
sedonaglass@wildapache.net

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MstrG et al.: if you figure out what happened, I would be very interested in an update.

And shame on you people for talking about getting people banned.

innocent until proven guilty

I'm not sticking up for garycoleman (he obviously can speak for himself), but he does seem to enjoy creating buttons for people and then pushing them. psychological buttons, that is.

I don't think anybody should be banned for offending someone. Or this place would be about empty, I'd guess.

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Okay. I've just seen all this.

1. I wasn't there and haven't seen the logs so I'm just talking off the cuff here.

2. It doesn't sound like you have given much thought to the fact that you have fucked up your own computer. GaryColeman, as sphinxy said, likes to play with people. Psychologically. He has a reputation now and he plays on it.

3. Wonderaz is the wrong person to speak to about this. Regular chatters know that the main server is owned and run by lo-key. MstrG and myself own and run the two leaf severs.

4. I, too, would like an update on this. Along with some proof that GaryColeman was actually responsible with anything.

5. I screwed with the MSAgent plugin for mIRC one time too. Fucked it all up. Not quite like TEFL described, but it was unusable.

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I mentioned banning him not for insulting me, (though I can see Method Dans's point!), I brought it up based on what happened to me. Otherwise I'd just ignore him and go on. Banning is rather hard handed but does this place really need someone around that enjoys messing with people just because he's socially innept? He obviously has issues and I don't feel that we should suffer his indignities because he's a fuckup and too ignorant to realize when to quit. Besides, I lost all respect for him awhile back when in chat he made fun of VKL because of his lady friend dying. People like that are socially unacceptable and should be kept at arms length if possible. Would you want someone like him living next door to you?

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Excuse me, Mr. Know it all.
I AM one of the right people to speak to about this, Pangloss. If ANYONE has a problem in here, they may address it to ANY admin and we will take action as we see fit.
I may not run the chat but I have the capability AND authority to deal with the problem.

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i thought paint was the most techno savvy person on here

oh btw, if anyone hears from karen, tell her to unchain paint from the bed
we want to know if he is still alive

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quote:
Originally posted by Timeenoughforlove:
I mentioned banning him not for insulting me, (though I can see Method Dans's point!), I brought it up based on what happened to me. Otherwise I'd just ignore him and go on. Banning is rather hard handed but does this place really need someone around that enjoys messing with people just because he's socially innept? He obviously has issues and I don't feel that we should suffer his indignities because he's a fuckup and too ignorant to realize when to quit. Besides, I lost all respect for him awhile back when in chat he made fun of VKL because of his lady friend dying. People like that are socially unacceptable and should be kept at arms length if possible. Would you want someone like him living next door to you?




This is exactly why we should ban tack also!



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We are looking into this TEFL, it will take sometime but we will let you know on what happened when we finish looking.

Also the first thing that yopu may want to do is check your computer for any virii. When ever you accept a file from ANYONE, you should ALWAYS run a virus check on it! It may not even be that persons' intention to spread anything so you never know.

Did you install the file that was sent to you? If so what happened when you did? If not I believe that there may have been a bug with MS Agent which screwed it up.

The more information that you can give us the better we can figure out what happened. In otherwords, I will not jump down anyones throat without proper research of the situation.

We will keep you informed on how it is comming.

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i'd prolly say it was agent fucking it up - rather than gary...
it needs looking into, and it it being done... thats all that needs to be said.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pangloss:
It doesn't sound like you have given much thought to the fact that you have fucked up your own computer.
I screwed with the MSAgent plugin for mIRC one time too. Fucked it all up. Not quite like TEFL described, but it was unusable.




I have thought of that idea myself but it is not possible. I attempted to use two seperate Mirc agent programs that night. The first, I had to put script into, (chat logs will probably show me mentioning this.) That version did not work properly so I done away with it entirely. The next version I tried had no script to enter. It was simply click and go. It was this version that was fucked up. It was not my doing that screwed it up. And if it was somehow me, I don't see how at all.

I checked for viruses yesterday on the Trend Microsystem site and came up clean, (Also the copy of PC-cillian I have showed nothing) but this was after I erased the screwed up program.)
I never accepted any program from him nor do I remember one popping up at any time, do the records show him sending one?


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Okay. I still want an update on this when some answers are found. TEFL - do a virus scan on the files you installed. In fact, do a scan on your whole computer.

quote:
Originally posted by wonderaz:
Excuse me, Mr. Know it all.
I AM one of the right people to speak to about this, Pangloss. If ANYONE has a problem in here, they may address it to ANY admin and we will take action as we see fit.
I may not run the chat but I have the capability AND authority to deal with the problem.



Hold for a second until I trail you out of my throat there, Mr. Wonderaz (and until I calm down some).

Okay. I'm not attempting to 'superceed' any authority you have here. Yes, you are the big man of this little picture. No one is disputing that. You have, however, told us on may occasions that you are a busy man.

My point is that you do not actively administrate the chat. lo-key, MstrG and I do. When someone in purchasing has a problem with finance, do they take it to the typing pool? No. In the same vein, when someone has a problem with chat, they should take it to the people directly responsible for it.

Or, that's my thinking at least. If the policy is that anything may be brought to any admin no matter what, then that's fine with me too. I would have thought it would make more sense for problems in specific areas to be directed to people in those areas.

On a related point, I have a responsibility which you don't. This box sitting behind me here, 'irish' as we like to call it, is mine. My responsibility. If someone, like Gary for example, is using it to hack and make a nuscience of himself, then that is my concern and none of yours.

So. I'm done. There are about a million other things I could say in relation to this, but I'll bite my tongue and perhaps we'll just shake hands and nod at each other.

And so on.

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Dan, your just pissed because of the whole firetalk thing, which I found very humorous.

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Are you trying to insult me? Or have you just not paid attention to myriad other instances of gary starting shit with me? (As I may have told you, if anyone acted like him to my face, they'd better be fucking huge or I'd beat the shit out of them.) He acts like a socially retarded child, his behavior is contrived solely to annoy, and I can't imagine why anyone might like him. He's not even particularly witty or funny. If he were actually GOOD at getting people to laugh at my expense I'd have a little respect, but he's an idiot. He's the poster child for 12 year old prepubescent script kiddies who try to act badass and fuck with people to compensate for their utter lack of social skills and self esteem. I see no reason why his shit should be tolerated.

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