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I am GOD

I was just wondering

What is everyone's perception of Deity?
I'm not trying to start a religous debate, I am just nosy

Let us assume that all paths are valid

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my views on higher being(s) seem to be abstract depending on my moods. sometimes I feel like there's a god, sometimes I feel like there's only people wishing there was god. I have no spiritual connection to anything that could be viewed as "god", but I would like to think that there's something planning some of this shit out a little.
I think the best way to describe how I view "god" would be the underlying stream of events that shape the world around us. everything on a personal basis has no real affect, but the planet interacts with the human race as a whole. things are made they way they are through evolution to keep harmony. for example: cut down the rain forests to make room for more people, and a disease that kills people when they reproduce will be stirred up. The guy who says "cut down the trees" may or may not feel the "wrath of god", but the guy is a member of the human race and the human race as a whole feels the reprocussions of it's actions.
I dunno .. I'm usually full of shit anyway, why should this be any different.

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What is God?
God is where one puts their purpose.

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My views on god vary according to my mood. Sometimes I believe in god, sometimes I don't, sometimes I believe in multiple gods, sometimes I believe that there's *something,* but not necessarily a god... My thoughts on god change daily, though I usually don't think much about it.

One thing I'm completely sure of, I'm NOT Christian. Don't get me wrong, Christianity is a perfectly good religion, and I like and respect many Christians (as long as they don't try to convert me), but it's just not for me.

Ok, I think I've begun rambling now. I'll shut up.

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God...he's gotta be real big. (I say "he" merely out of convention)

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....or really little.

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Both and neither.
God is a Paradox.

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Big and little, good and bad, none of it applys to the almighty GOD thingy!!

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It slices! It Dices! I makes suns outta snot! It's GOD 2000!
If you already own a copy of GOD 98 then the upgrade won't cost an arm or a leg! Just your soul and 7 easy installments of $79.99. Order now and you get the Messiah pack bundled free!

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When I was in 6th grade I had a science teacher that told us that she believed that when we die we rot. There is nothing. Same as before birth. That kinda bummed me out. It was like finding out about Santa Claus and prolly not something she should be saying to 6th graders, but teachers in my district always felt free to teach their politics and beliefs on top of the curriculum. Then when I was in high school my brother was given a year to live and received a double lung transplant. He did alright for about 6 months and then passed away after his body rejected the new lungs. So I took a dim view towards god and religion. Now I will occasionally see things that will make me think there is something to spirituality, but not usually. I am a believer in science mostly. I don’t rule out the fact that there could be some sort of higher power, but I do not see any evidence to believe in any of it. We call ancient religions ‘myths’, but what makes modern religion any more reasonable?

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Originally posted by Thimbles worth of opinion:
It slices! It Dices! I makes suns outta snot! It's GOD 2000!
If you already own a copy of GOD 98 then the upgrade won't cost an arm or a leg! Just your soul and 7 easy installments of $79.99. Order now and you get the Messiah pack bundled free!

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I was brought up a conventional catholic.. My family being catholic, and my grandparents forcing it onto my parents, who in turn saw it as only gods wil himself to force it upon their children, so I was brought up into this great, god-loving family.
My parents dropped the practice of praying and all that shit, and expected me and my sister to continue with it..
We were sent to catholic schools, and treated like shit, because we had to pay for it, and they 0\'N3D our souls.
Catholic primary school across the road from a church was were I went. I learnt how to hate there. I learnt that shit happens and your god does nothing to help you, but whenever something good happens, it's always because god wanted it to happen to you.
Then from there, I went to a catholic high school.. This is where the shit-treatment, bad edumacation, and harsh policies all stopping us becoming human and developing a sense of ourselves occurred. No swearing, short hair only, polished shoes, wear a tie, get a longer tie, tuck your shirt in, pray, stop praying, read, don't read that, dont talk back, dont talk, dont breathe, dont die.
St Mary's Cathedral College. A nice massive structure next to it called St Marys Cathedral, the largest church in Sydney I believe. If ever offered, don't go there, don't give them money, don't even walk near it. It's evil. It's anti-christ, yet loved by all.

These places are were I learnt that there is no god.
From there I was told about the 'higher power' theory, which I contemplated, but then dismissed, and now I go on believing nothing.
Im sick of putting faith in things, I live, I die, the end.
Maybe i'll help someone else during this process, but I doubt it.

*note* The opinions expressed in this thread are those of Mal Kavian's and are not to be taken as bible truth.

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When I was young I asked God for a mini bike to appear in the garage the next day because my folks were against them. Well, when the modest minibike did not materialize I was pissed.

I'm still pissed. But not about the mini bike.

Cause when I was 16 I asked God to let me wake up with a 10 inch....

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quote:

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Originally posted by DevilMoon:
We call ancient religions ‘myths’, but what makes modern religion any more reasonable?

DM

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I believe in a God. I shall not tell you what to believe in, and please pay me the same respect. Two subjects I do not get into debates about : Politics(sp), and Religion(sp).

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There is a God.
There is no God.
There is a Higher Power.
There is no Higher Power.

Here are four statements which are totally meaningless. Neither entity can be sensed or quantifiably measured. Their presence cannot be justified by any sort of logic. The ideas of God and of a Higher Power are nothingspeak; creations of man to serve no purpose but to mask our piss-poor understanding of the mechanics of the universe. You might as well join a UFO cult or a Christian church, a Muslim mosque, or a Wiccan coven. They all peddle the same sort of meaningless dribble that clouds the mind by making assumptions based on logical fallacy and lack of evidence, rather than an abundance of it. They are interesting ideas, but that is all they are. When they drift into the realm of belief, they become a self-deception. Ideas are great; they can keep the mind occupied for hours. But beliefs are very dangerous things, and they're much harder to change.

To tell the truth, I always found Charlie Manson more appealing than Jesus. Hey, we all gotta believe in someone.

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Originally posted by Hedonism:
There is a God.
There is no God.
There is a Higher Power.
There is no Higher Power.

Here are four statements which are totally meaningless. Neither entity can be sensed or quantifiably measured.

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Originally posted by I'm the Fuckin' Dude, man:
How do you know they can't be sensed? Are you privy to everyone's sensations?

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You have never heard of a 6th sense?

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well I can't sense an atom, but they exist right?

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Yeah, it's a movie.
Get over it, it's not a sense.
That 6th sense is probably started by some christian preacher who realised his congregation was decreasing and needed more power to control.
It's bullshit.

It's in the mind of the beholder. Not in real life.

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what about an idea? I can't sense it, but they exist. Does Justice exist? Love? and so on?

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Do you even know what I am talking about? I'm not talking about a movie first off. Maybe you want to research it a bit more, so you don't come off sounding like a jackass.

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I'm the fuckin' dude, man: Those things exist within society. Society does not exist. You are only told they exist, you may belive they exist. But they don't exist, they are there, but do not exist.

exist:
1. To have actual being; be: That situation exists only in his mind.
2. to have life; live: Dinosaurs existed a long time ago
3. To continue to be or live: We cannot exist without water

Caffeine: I am a jackass, get over it.

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Yeeha! Caffiene VS Mally!!

BTW. I got that sense. I'm not kidding. A tingle of something happening. Sometimes it's a warning. Sometimes it's a guidence. I've had actual conversations with this sense. Beautiful poetic conversations where I hear my thoughts, but the sense, the tingle, and the content of the thought feels unlike me. I sense a presence.

If that's a delusion in your opinion sue me. You believe in the abyss that is life. I believe in something else.

Life is an abyss without purpose.