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What if Bush attacked on Sept. 10, 2001?

I read this article last week and I really enjoyed it because I believe it tells the truth about what exactly would have happened to President Bush if he HAD acted militarily prior to 9/11. I think it makes a good, but sad, point.

Here it is:

News from a parallel universe

What if Bush had attacked Afghanistan on Sept. 10, 2001?

KATHLEEN PARKER

Tribune Media Services

NEW YORK - President-elect John F. Kerry's rise to the nation's highest office came as little surprise following almost four years of remonstrations against President George W. Bush for his bizarre attack on the defenseless people of Afghanistan.

Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, was the right man for a nation outraged by the Bush administration's pre-emptive war, which, it now seems clear, was based on highly speculative intelligence that Saudi Arabian-born terrorist Osama bin Laden was planning an attack on the United States.

Absent absolute proof of such an imminent attack, Bush's Sept. 10 bombing of Afghanistan earned him international condemnation and, in all likelihood, an indictment in coming weeks. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, appearing last night on "Larry King Live," said the United Nations' International Criminal Tribunal likely would bring charges of genocide against Bush.

Bush also faces federal charges at home for his baseless arrest of 19 foreign nationals, many of them native Saudis, whose "crime" was attending American flight schools. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has joined the American Civil Liberties Union in a joint suit against both Bush and former Attorney General John Ashcroft, charging racial profiling, unlawful arrest and illegal search and seizure.

Kerry's campaign mantra -- "You go to war because you have to, not because you want to" -- clearly resonated with Americans as they tried to make sense of Bush's Sept. 10 attack on Afghanistan. Neither the president, nor national security adviser Condoleezza Rice convincingly defended their actions during the recent 9-10 Commission hearings, which Congress ordered in response to public outcry.

The commission's purpose was to try to determine what compelled the president to launch a war against Afghanistan. What kind of intelligence suggested that such an act was justified?

The main target of the attack was bin Laden, friend to Afghanistan's brutal Taliban regime, as well as al-Qaida training camps in that war-ravaged nation. Al-Qaida, an international terrorist network, has been blamed for numerous attacks on U.S. interests, including the USS Cole bombing.

Even though Bush's military campaign was successful in ending the oppressive Taliban regime, bin Laden apparently escaped and al-Qaida continues to flourish.

Some intelligence sources speculate that bin Laden's operatives may be trying to secure weapons of mass destruction from Iraq's Saddam Hussein. Even though Saddam continues to send money to the families of Palestinian terrorists and is believed to have programs for developing WMDs, Kerry says he is committed to containing Saddam through continued sanctions and the U.N. oil-for-food program.

In any case, experts say that intelligence about Saddam's WMD program is just as speculative as was the intelligence that prompted Bush to attack Afghanistan. The man credited with sounding the alarm on bin Laden and al-Qaida was Richard Clarke, a counterterrorism expert who has served four presidents, including Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

In a Jan. 25 memo to Rice, for instance, Clarke urged immediate attention to several items of national security interest: the Northern Alliance, covert aid, a significant new '02 budget authority to help fight al-Qaida and a response to the USS Cole.

At Rice's and Clarke's urging, Bush called a meeting of principals and, after "connecting the dots," decided to wage war against Afghanistan. What did the dots say? Not much, in retrospect. Apparently, the president decided to bomb a benign country on the basis of "chatter" that hinted at "something big."

With no other details on the "big," and weaving together random bits of information from a variety of questionable sources, Bush and company decided that 19 fundamentalist Muslim fanatics would fly airplanes into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon on 9-11.

Under questioning by the 9-10 Commission, Clarke denied that his memo was anything more than a historical overview with a "set of ideas and a paper, mostly." The bipartisan commission concluded, therefore, that Bush's "dot-connecting" had destroyed American credibility and subjected the United States to increasing hostility in the Arab-Muslim world.

Last week, Saddam and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat joined French and German leaders in condemning Bush and urging the American voters to cast their ballots for regime change in America. President Kerry was the clear response to that call.

In a flourish of irony and the spirit of bon vivant for which the new president is widely known, Kerry gave his acceptance speech from Windows on the World, the elegant restaurant atop the World Trade Center's Tower One.

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Thats dumb.

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9/11 was in planning for a LONG time. Not one single action by any country could've prevented that.

But an interesting read anyways.

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I should make a 'propoganda' icon for threads such as this ...

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the real question i want answered is, 'what if, in a parallel universe, this article had been posted to TLF weeks ago?'

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duh, it would be posted in PDM weeks after the fact and dingle would consider making a 'propaganda' icon.

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I wish the author would have considered what would have happened if Bush had paid more attention to the threat and the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Reagan administrations (not necessarily the presidents themselves) had been able to get the intelligence services functioning properly and Bush had been able to unveil the 19 arrests with evidence of what they were doing. We still wouldn't have been able to comprehend the magnitude of the attack had it not been thwarted, but the tone of the author here would be put in its place.

If only Bush (insert presidential/ policy of your choice here) supporters would be critical when needed, we'd be able to muster a critical mass to get things improved.

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is GFY just one of P_T's alters? I hope not, cuz I'm in mouse-love with GFY!!! *readies a brick for the hurling ...

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Take your fucking brick throwing somewhere else, you mouse cunt.

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This piece simply illustrates the folly of Monday moring quarterbacking. Everyone is a great weatherman when it is raining.

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quote:
Originally posted by funkyrooster
you mouse cunt.


mouse cunt is good eatin, though... especially baby mouse cunt

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Put it this way, Odin. I'm glad you're 3,500 miles away

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*does not deign to hurl a brick at the supercilious, tackyrooster

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Good.

Now FUCK OFF

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quote:
Originally posted by funkyrooster
Good.

Now FUCK OFF



Funkyrooster has discovered how to put stuff in bold?

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quote:
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Good.

Now FUCK OFF



erm, lessee now, leave, thus acquiescing to the demands of an arrogant, disagreeable prick, or stay, perhaps to cause him more annoyance and one day drive him to despair?

hee hee, whatever is a mouse to do? *readies nice hefty brick

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quote:
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acquiescing to the demands of an arrogant, disagreeable prick


You have the same scriptwriter as my mother


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..or stay, perhaps to cause him more annoyance


You could never cause me more annoyance than Smug, Phil, et al


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and one day drive him to despair?


See above

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hee hee, whatever is a mouse to do? [/B]


Like I really give a shit

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Life on an army base having the usual impact on the rooster's sunny outlook on life then

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Soviet Operational Art/Deep Battle theory doesn't help much.

So you can fuck off too

*mwah mwah*

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while we're talking fantasy, here's a senator that can't wait to be tossed out of office:


Senator says US may need compulsory service to boost Iraq force

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A senior Republican lawmaker said that deteriorating security in Iraq (news - web sites) may force the United States to reintroduce the military draft.

"There's not an American ... that doesn't understand what we are engaged in today and what the prospects are for the future," Senator Chuck Hagel told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on post-occupation Iraq.



"Why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?" Hagel said, arguing that restoring compulsory military service would force "our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of challenges we face."



The Nebraska Republican added that a draft, which was ended in the early 1970s, would spread the burden of military service in Iraq more equitably among various social strata.



"Those who are serving today and dying today are the middle class and lower middle class," he observed.

The call to consider a imposing a draft comes just days after the Pentagon (news - web sites) moved to extend the missions of some 20,000 of the 135,000 US troops in Iraq.

More here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._military_draft

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And stop telling people to fuck off, funkywarbler.

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yeah rooster, that is possibly the lamest, unfunniest response I've ever seen you make. I can't even hurl a brick at that.

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Oh, woe is me. Stop it. I might cry soon.

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