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Now who was after oil again ?

The prospects of the United Nations taking over the transition in Iraq may now be fatally compromised. The world body is caught up in a welter of allegations and evidence suggesting strongly that a noble effort of humanitarian assistance was tainted by greed, bribery, and the most venal kind of power politics. The U.N. was supposed to oversee the oil-for-food program that allowed Saddam Hussein to sell oil and use the proceeds to buy essential food and medicine for the Iraqi people. At least $10 billion, evidently, went into the pockets of political operators.


It is a tribute to the new American-installed democracy in Iraq that an Iraqi newspaper has been in the forefront of exposing the racket and naming the 270 international power brokers who seem to have had their hands in the till. Here's how the scam allegedly worked: Saddam sold oil to his friends and allies around the world at deep discounts. The buyers resold the oil at huge profits. Saddam then got kickbacks of 10 percent from both the oil traders and the suppliers of humanitarian goods. Iraqi bean counters, fortunately, kept meticulous records.

Coincidence. If you wondered why the French were so hostile to America's approach to Iraq and even opposed to ending the sanctions after the 1991 Gulf War, here's one possible explanation: French oil traders got 165 million barrels of Iraqi crude at cut-rate prices. The CEO of one French company, SOCO International, got vouchers for 36 million barrels of Iraqi oil. Was it just a coincidence that the man is a close political and financial supporter of President Jacques Chirac? Or that a former minister of the interior, Charles Pasqua, allegedly received 12 million barrels from Baghdad? Or that a former French ambassador to the U.N., Jean-Bernard Merimee, received an allocation of 11 million barrels? Perhaps it was just happenstance, too, that a French bank with close ties to then French President François Mitterrand and one of the bank's big shareholders who is close to Saddam became the main conduit for the bulk of the $67 billion in proceeds from the oil-for-food program. All told, 42 French companies and individuals got a piece of this lucrative trade. No matter how cynical you may be, it's sometimes just plain hard to keep up with the French.

But they're not alone. Russians received more than 2.5 billion barrels of the cut-rate crude. Some 1.4 billion barrels went to the Russian state. Not to be left out of the feeding frenzy, even the U.N. got in on the action. It received administrative fees of about $2 billion for the program, which may be fair, but the senior U.N. official in charge of the program, Benon Sevan, is reported to have received 11.5 million barrels himself. Cotecna, a Swiss-based firm hired by the U.N. to monitor the import of the food and medicine to Iraq, hired Kojo Annan, the son of U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, as a consultant during the period when the company was assembling and submitting bids for the oil-for-food program. All of these coincidences were reported by Claudia Rosett in the National Review. None, surprisingly, were disclosed by the U.N., Cotecna, or the senior or junior Annan. The imposition of so-called smart sanctions on Iraq, several years after the end of the 1991 Gulf War, allowed Saddam to purchase items besides food and medicine. But some of the things approved by Kofi Annan seem pretty far afield. There was the $20 million he authorized for an Olympic sports city for Uday Hussein, Saddam's reprehensible (and now deceased) oldest son. And then there was the $50 million for TV and radio equipment for Saddam's ham-handed propaganda machine. This is food? Gives new meaning to Kofi Annan's statement, in 1998, that Saddam was a man "I can do business with." And how.

All of this would seem to raise a few questions about the intense opposition to the American intervention in Iraq within the U.N. Security Council, and particularly from Paris and Moscow. In one way or another, the U.N. stonewalled, until now, a serious independent investigation of the oil-for-food program. To his credit, Kofi Annan is now supporting such an investigation, but the Security Council has not approved it, and France and Russia--surprise!--are actively blocking it. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker has agreed to head the inquiry, but only if it is blessed by a Security Council vote. Absent such a vote, there is still an awful lot of explaining to be done.


Browse through an archive of columns by Mortimer B. Zuckerman.


Will the investigation be whitewashed to preserve the U.N.'s reputation so that it can replace the CPA in Iraq, or will the investigation get to the bottom of this ugly mess? Fortunately, Congress is going to conduct its own hearings on the largest public financial scandal in history--and the disgraceful insiders' game played at the U.N

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/...nion/26edit.htm

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No shit.

I posted as much when the war started.

All the countries that protested US intervention were in bed with Saddam for OIL.

I don't understand why people get so indignant over the profit motive and public cover stories (aka "lies") to conceal profit motives.

Nobody really gives a fuck about "humanitarian" causes.

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The UN is a bad joke.

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where did i put my NO supporting tyrants for oil banner ? i think i will hang it on the Space needle , it's my civil right after all.

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quote:
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Nobody really gives a fuck about "humanitarian" causes.

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Hi Ho, Mister Kofi has to go.

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Your point?

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as long as you recognize that everyone includes us, there's no point left to be made.

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Your point?


its on top of his head.

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I still don't get why the U.N.'s role in rebuilding Iraq is hopeless. Care to explain how two countries' shameful dealings with a deposed dictator nullify the legitimacy of an international effort to rebuild a county (as opposed to unilateral, imperial, occupation)?

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Who is after oil? People with cars.
Hypocrites.

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quote:
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as long as you recognize that everyone includes us, there's no point left to be made.


Ok, I'll clarify my original statement: "Nobody that matters....."

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quote:
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Ok, I'll clarify my original statement: "Nobody that matters....."
now you're juist getting silly. You were much more accurate earlier. The three reasons that we went to war have been published, and they are not humanitarian in nature:

quote:
1) to “defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq.”

2) to “enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.”

3) “to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.”


That these are the reasons is not debatable. This was the only reasons for war which were approved by the US congress. Whether we think these particular reasons are valid is not the debate; they are the reasons nonetheless.

We did not go in for humanitarian reasons. Just because it's fairly obvious that the French, Germans, and to a lesser extent the Russians wanted to keep us out so they could exploit Iraqi oil does not mean, or imply directly or indirectly, that we didn't want to go in to exploit Iraqi oil.

So i'll say again, you were far more accurate the first time:
quote:
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Nobody really gives a fuck about "humanitarian" causes.
so perhaps the point isn't at the top of my head, maybe it was in there all along.

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Re: Now who was after oil again ?

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It is a tribute to the new American-installed democracy in Iraq... [/url]



This is a joke article, yeah? On account of the fact that there is no democracy in Iraq yet.

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quote:
Originally posted by ZiM
The three reasons that we went to war have been published, and they are not humanitarian in nature


I made the comment about "humanitarian" motives in response to this statement in the original post:

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The world body is caught up in a welter of allegations and evidence suggesting strongly that a noble effort of humanitarian assistance was tainted by greed, bribery, and the most venal kind of power politics.


Because it was a naive statement. Nothing more than that.


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That these are the reasons is not debatable. This was the only reasons for war which were approved by the US congress. Whether we think these particular reasons are valid is not the debate; they are the reasons nonetheless.


Publically professed reasons.

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We did not go in for humanitarian reasons.


I never said we did. The initial post implied we did. I was scoffing at that idea.

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Just because it's fairly obvious that the French, Germans, and to a lesser extent the Russians wanted to keep us out so they could exploit Iraqi oil does not mean, or imply directly or indirectly, that we didn't want to go in to exploit Iraqi oil.


No shit. Thats what I was saying all along.

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so perhaps the point isn't at the top of my head, maybe it was in there all along.


Then again, perhaps the point IS at the top of your head all along.

New question: Which do you suck worse at; reading or thinking?

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I'll bet I'm the only one here who believes that the United States SHOULD take over Saudi Arabia's oilfields. As well as those in Iraq.

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I'll bet I'm the only one here who believes that the United States SHOULD take over Saudi Arabia's oilfields. As well as those in Iraq.


You would lose that bet.

Personally I think the human population of the entire continent should be exterminated, including Israel.

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Personally I think the human population of the entire continent should be exterminated, including Israel.


You would have been a popular guy at the Wanasee Conference.

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I don't know where people get the idea that human life is sacred or scarce.

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It's built in. That's why we're human and not animal.

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It's built in. That's why we're human and not animal.


Superstitious animals.

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