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Padilla, Hamdi, Gitmo, and Abu Ghraib -- connection?

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Originally from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6-2004May6.html
Letter to the Editor:

Fallout From Abu Ghraib
Friday, May 7, 2004; Page A32

By requesting that CBS delay its report on prisoner abuses at Abu Ghraib by two weeks (news story, May 4), Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, deprived the country of a full and forthright oral argument before the Supreme Court on the rights of U.S. citizens whom the government has detained as "enemy combatants."

Oral argument in those cases, Hamdi v. Rumsfeld and Padilla v. Rumsfeld, ended about noon April 28. CBS aired the report eight hours later. Had the report aired the previous week, the government's responses to certain questions at oral argument would certainly have been different. Specifically, it would have been clear what abuses could be perpetrated under the government's theory that "enemy combatants" have no rights.

As it happened, the justices asked Principal Deputy Solicitor General Paul D. Clement what in the law would check the executive branch from torturing prisoners. He responded that the government would honor its obligations under the "convention to prohibit torture and that sort of thing."

He also explained that as a practical matter torture is not the best means of extracting information from prisoners, because one "would wonder about the reliability of the information you are getting"; the "way you get the best information from individuals is that you interrogate them, you try to develop a relationship of trust. . . ." Mr. Clement said that it is "the judgment of those involved in these processes, that the last thing you want to do is torture somebody." He concluded in response to a question about checks on the executive branch's authority to engage in torture: "You have to recognize that . . . where the government is on a war footing, you have to trust the executive. . . ."

As the abuses at Abu Ghraib show, one cannot simply trust the executive branch to protect human rights under U.S. criminal law, the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions. For the sake of our security and for the protection of human rights everywhere, we believe the court should agree.

JAMES F. FITZPATRICK

Washington

The writer, a partner at the law firm Arnold & Porter, filed friend-of-the-court briefs with the Supreme Court in the Hamdi and Padilla cases on behalf of Global Rights, a Washington-based international human rights group that he chairs.
The defense department asked CBS to delay the release of the Abu Ghraib photo's until 8 hours after the close of oral arguments in the Hamdi/Padilla cases which are currently before the Supreme Court.

This would have seriously hurt the executive's argument of "trust us, we have treaty obligations" had the Abu Ghraib story hit the press mere HOURS earlier.

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I hadn't thought of the Padilla case, although I guess that a military prison is a military prison, wherever it is, to some extent. Will the justices bear this in mind anyhow, or can they only consider arguments presented to them (as would be the case in a normal trial, I guess)? In any case, the report has been out for a while before this (or was it classified?).

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Indeed it would.

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