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Where's the outrage? Hell the initial Reuters headline said "Video seems to show American Beheaded"

Seems to show? Un fucking real.




Video is on this site:

http://www.al-ansar.biz/vb/showthre...readid=10700%20

Has been down due to high traffic.

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One less car in traffic?

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that is horrible!

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Jesus. That is truly horrible.
And yes, TT, it is an atrocity, and I am outraged. There is no way in which this is more forgiveable, or less horrendous, than the abuse and humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners.

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Here's a story I got of it...

The video won't work for me TT...

American civilian beheaded by captors in Iraq
Last Updated Tue, 11 May 2004 18:04:49

CAIRO - A video on an al-Qaeda-linked website apparently shows a captured American civilian in Iraq being beheaded as an act of revenge for the abuse of Iraqi soldiers by U.S. troops.

A group of five men standing over a bound man who identified himself as Nick Berg (AP PHOTO)



In the video, five men wearing headscarves and black ski-masks stand over a man who identifies himself as Nick Berg.



Berg's body was found near a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday. Berg was a communications businessman.




"My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Suzanne," the man on the video says. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in … Philadelphia."

On the video, after the man reads the statement, his head is cut off as he's heard screaming. His head is then held before the camera as the men shout "Allahu Akbar," which means "God is great."

Reading from a statement, one of the men in the video claims that they offered to exchange the hostage for some of the detainees from Abu Ghraib prison but the U.S. administration refused.

"The dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins … slaughtered in this way," one of the men says.

The website often features statements and tapes claiming to be from al-Qaeda and Islamic extremist groups.

An audio tape purportedly from Osama bin Laden, which the CIA said was probably authentic, appeared on the same website last week.

The video is entitled Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Shown Slaughtering an American.

Al-Zarqawi is a lieutenant of bin Laden, but it is not known if he is in the video.

The Berg family said they had hoped word of how he was executed would not be made public.

They said the U.S. State Department told them about how their son died when his body was found in Baghdad on the weekend.

"I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public," Michael Berg, Nick's father, told the Associated Press.

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that first pic is the worst.

urgh

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One word: Savages.

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well, that kind of sucks, but it's not like he gave up a career in the NFL to be there or anything...

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poor guy...dying in such a unfashionable orange jumpsuit

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tasteless, Hawley & mmmtravis. those types of comments are expected in TLF, but have no place here, imo.

this is going to continue to get more ugly. i almost think that we should just pull out, as the US is doing more harm than good at this point and feeding the resistance to occupation all the while.

fuck, that is horrible.

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When humiliation looks quite minor.

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well, that kind of sucks, but it's not like he gave up a career in the NFL to be there or anything...

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Its horrible sure, but its not like its new. This type of thing has happened several times, I am not sure why this is seen as some sort of escalation.

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Painless?
On another yahoo news site, it mentioned how they cut his head off. With a large knife.
Not a guillotine or anything so quick. They sawed his head off as he screamed.

The deaths of thousands by starvation (or malaria, or AIDS, or cancer, or car crashes, etc.) are all to be mourned. There is something particularly dreadful, though, about the brutal and cold-blooded murder of a person, on camera, while shouting prayers. The twisting of the human spirit that such a thing represents is particularly horrendous to me.
I mourn the passing of thousands due to indifference, bad planning, and forces of nature, but there is something about this sort of death which makes my soul shrivel even more.

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it's called compassion, you twit.

it may not be "new", but that doesn't make the beheading of a human being as an act of retribution any less horrible.

it was a barbaric act, and i don't find that the least bit amusing.

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it's called compassion, you twit.

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When humiliation looks quite minor.

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Live free or die, as they say in New Hampshire.

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Most of the wars had a European winner, on account of both sides being European.

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