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Don't fuck with da Girl Scouts!

Girl Scouts to lean on cookie sale deadbeats

By Lorene Yue
Tribune staff reporter
Published July 10, 2004

When customers order Trefoils and Thin Mints but won't pay for them, Girl Scouts are increasingly becoming tough cookies.

Thanks to a steady number of people skipping out on orders each year, the national girls organization has recently begun to crack down on munchers who owe money.

"We're a non-profit and I don't think it's a good idea to steal from the Girl Scouts," said Barb Atwell, finance director for the Fox Valley Council, which represents 6,500 scouts.

So is a baseball bat-embroidered debt collection badge on the horizon?

Not really, according to organization officials. But leaders work hard to recoup the outstanding money because Girl Scouts rely on cookie sales for the bulk of their funding. Troops get roughly 50 cents for every $3 to $4 box sold--or $2,500 for 5,000 boxes. And, to a non-profit organization, every penny counts.

Cookie deadbeats limit camping trips, treats and other activities, and some say, come within one small step of taking candy from a baby.

"It takes over $200 a year to provide girl scouting to one girl," said Jan Devore, spokeswoman for the Fox Valley Council. "The bottom line: You're affecting programs for girls."

Nationally, Girl Scouts raise more than $500 million each year on the sale--so even a 1-percent loss would represent a $5 million or more shortfall.

As serious as the group is getting about collecting, don't expect the neighborhood Girl Scout to show up at the door for a shortbread shakedown.

Council leaders often try first.

Atwell uses a two-step approach to collecting cookie debt. First come the letters, then maybe a phone call. Most people end up paying the bill after a few gentle reminders. Rarely does she have to get ugly.

"It takes me three to four months before I become a hardnose," Atwell said.

Some councils resort to professional debt collection agencies for the heavy lifting.

California-based OldDebts.com, a division of Fidelity Information Corp., was hired in June to hound 2,000 people in cookie default. The Web-based collection agency, which won't divulge its client council, charges a flat fee to pursue delinquent debt instead of the traditional 20 percent to 30 percent commission of recovered funds. That makes it more cost-effective for non-profits to go after smaller debts.

Getting a letter from a collection agency seems to pack more punch than a call from the local Girl Scouts council.

"The success for non-for-profits is better than a typical collection," said Jeff Cronrod, president and chief executive of OldDebts.com. "People do come around faster than if it were for a delinquent doctor bill."

Councils have their own rules for running annual cookie sales, which typically take place in the first few months of the year. Some expect payment when the order is placed, others will release that box of Carmel deLites only after they get the cash.

Chicagoan Ted Swartz, whose daughter Chrissy is in Scouts, has embraced that same business model for the past six years: No cash, no cookies. Still, he ends up with extra boxes every year.

"I've probably absorbed a dozen boxes in addition to placing a large order," he said. "I will take a certain amount of risk."

He says he is placated by the product: "You can never get tired of eating Girl Scout cookies."

While giving up the goods without getting paid is not encouraged, it does happen.

"I didn't think you could buy cookies on credit," said Maggie Killackey, press secretary for the Chicago Public Library, who was surprised by the practice.

Unclaimed cookies usually end up in the hands of someone who forgot to place an order or are dispatched through an on-site sale, said Betty McPhilimy, leader of Girl Scout Troop 1561 in Lake Forest.

In her five years as a troop leader, she says, she has never had a problem with cookie debt.

"It's really fairly well controlled," she said about the sales process.

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I was a girl scout until I was thirteen. I hated that cookie selling crap. It was torture, they forced us to go to our local mall and chase after people begging them to buy cookies. I remember a lot of folks who forgot they bought cookies and refused to pay later on. I also remember having the door slammed in my face by my neighbors, the fuckers.

At least the tagalong cookies were delicious.

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GirlScout cookies taste like cardboard.

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Cardboard with peanut butter and chocolatey goodness, though. Mmm.

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People just don't pay for them because they are too shitty. Worst cookies ever.

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Are there real girlscouts in them?

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quote:
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People just don't pay for them because they are too shitty. Worst cookies ever.


What the fuck would you know about tasty cookies? Yer a limey, you all don't have a clue as to what tastes good or not.
This amazes me since you are a just V-2 rockets throw from France where they at least know how to cook.

Anyway, I'm good for about 20 boxes a year. I pay too.

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Anyway, I'm good for about 20 boxes a year. I pay too.


im good for 15 boxes and about 3 girls a year, i don't pay shit

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Samoan cookies rock!

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What the fuck would you know about tasty cookies? Yer a limey, you all don't have a clue as to what tastes good or not.
This amazes me since you are a just V-2 rockets throw from France where they at least know how to cook.

Anyway, I'm good for about 20 boxes a year. I pay too.



US cookies are disappointing enough as it is, from the shops. GirlScout cookies are additionally fucking shite.

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Samoan cookies rock!

I was just gonna say that.
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im good for 15 boxes and about 3 girls a year, i don't pay shit


I discovered early on that if you kill them every year, they quit showing up.
I missed the cookies.

Smug... Once again, you are a limey. You have no taste buds. you drink beer warm, you are not, and no one on your island will ever be a, food critic, ok?
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Bah, American candy is mediocre and American cookies are drab. It's true.

This doesn't amount to a defence of British cuisine, mind, because it is still shit, never fear.

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