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DevilMoon
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F1

I haven't followed it in the past too much, but I meant to last year and actually going to a race this year has helped out a lot. (Last weekend I watched the German grand prix at 7:30am here and then the final stage of the Tour de France after, both live, which was cool).

Anyways, it is normal to have this much of a shakeup between seasons? More than half the cars seem to be getting different drivers. Maybe it is a product of the Ferrari's dominance, I don't know. I wonder how some of these teams even stay at the F1 level, with the amount of money it takes. Minardi just lost their main sponsor after their sporting director died and they ran the car without decals. The sponsor seemed to disagree with the tribute. Anyhow, here is the 2005 grid so far:

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F1 Grid Takes Shape
Wed 28 Jul, 3:12 PM

Today's announcements confirming Mark Webber and Giancarlo Fisichella at Williams and Renault respectively for 2005 take next season's grid a step closer to completion.

Here the Press Association takes a look at the 2005 Formula One line-up.

FERRARI
Confirmed: Michael Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello

RENAULT
Confirmed: Fernando Alonso and Giancarlo Fisichella

BAR
Confirmed: Jenson Button
Likely: Takuma Sato

WILLIAMS
Confirmed: Mark Webber
Likely: Nick Heidfeld
Outsiders: Mika Hakkinen, Jacques Villeneuve

McLAREN
Confirmed: Kimi Raikkonen and Juan Pablo Montoya

SAUBER
Likely: Felipe Massa
Contenders: Anthony Davidson, Gary Paffett, David Coulthard

TOYOTA
Confirmed: Ralf Schumacher
Likely: Jarno Trulli

JAGUAR
Likely: Christian Klien
Contenders: David Coulthard, Anthony Davidson, Bjorn Wirdheim

JORDAN
TBA

MINARDI
TBA


Also, it seems a lot of people have come out against the idea of putting a GP on the streets of London. Jean Todt, Ferrari's director said "that trying to emulate Monaco in one of the world's most congested cities 'can not work.'"

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that looks like a mighty phallus erupting from the ground.

next to some little blue huts

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Formula 1 racing is the dullest sport ever.

With the possible exception of 'Curling'.

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I thought you needed help.

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What about synchronized swimming?

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At least there's pussy to be ogled at in synchronized swimming.

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quote:
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Formula 1 racing is the dullest sport ever.

With the possible exception of 'Curling'.



Good point. But curling is a fantastic sport. Golf, now that has to be the dullest sport of them all (lets not forget cricket though).

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Fucking infidel.

You're only supporting curling coz of the Brit golds in the Olympics.

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Thats simply not true *cough-bullshit-cough*, er .... Curling is better than cricket, cmon, you know Im right.

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Man, lots of talking out of the ass here. F1 is a great sport, but you gotta pay attention to more than just the races. It isn't just race day and I doubt it would be fun to follow without a little bit of pit story. I haven't followed it closely the last couple years partly because of Schumacher's dominance. It just isn't that fun to watch when the same team and same guy always fucking wins.

I can't comment directly about the degree of shakeup in the offseasons. I'm surprised the changes are known this early, as the season doesn't end until October. I'm disappointed to learn that Brazil hosts the final race now, or at least this year.

From that list, I was surprised to see Mika Hakkinen's name on there. I wonder how good he'd be coming back from retirement from a few years ago. Disappointing to see Coulthard leaving McLauren. He and Mikka were teammates when I started wathcing and I've been a McLauren fan more than any other team. But bringing Montoya over to Mclauren will be a good thing for sure. Kimi Raikkonen was hot hot early this season (or was it early last season) and then kind of lost it somewhere but he shows great promise. Assuming he and Montoya can get along, he can learn some stuff.

As for boring sports, NASCAR is the worst. Curling isn't so fun to watch necessarily but its great fun to do and actually watching it isn't too bad if you pay attention. Golf can be a real pressure cooker to watch. Counter intuitive, I know, but I watched a few tournaments a while ago (right before Payne Stewart died) and got into it. My recommendation is to pick a few golfers a few strokes back and pay attention to them. Put yourself in the mindset and feel the pressure these guys are under. Watching them choke is painful and its thrilling when they pull off the insane shots. Seriously.

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Golf = Gentleman Only Ladies Forbidden and it is a great fucking sport you lower working class proles.

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quote:
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thats so lame. You're not normally that lame.

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that is actually what golf used to stand for (at least it was an acronym that was used in some clubs e.g Carlton Club etc). Obviously I don't believe it, I think woman playing golf is cool. Golf is cool. I play golf.

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its still lame. just like golf.

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bollocks.

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quote:
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I'm surprised the changes are known this early, as the season doesn't end until October.


I was too, but they are already testing the 2005 cars, so I guess it makes sense to get the teams in order.

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Assuming he and Montoya can get along, he can learn some stuff.


After Ralf Schumacher crashed at Indy and was in the hospital, Montoya (his teammate) was asked in an interview how Ralf was doing and he said he hadn't talked to him. He was asked why not, and he said he didn't have the number. The guy said that he could surely find it out, but Montoya said he wouldn't know what to say to him anyways. He is either really aloof or a jerk or just disliked Ralf, I don't know. He was asked if he had a problem with Ralf and he said they get along fine, on the track.

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take away the ball and its just walking

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golf, that is

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None of the drivers like each other, really. They are all too competitive (and most are jerks anyhow, it seems).

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F1 racing is far more entertaining to watch than NASCAR, but both are equally as dull. Go rally!

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Montoya and Schumacher have struck me as the most competitive of the bunch. They really take it seriously.

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