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Has music died?

As in new styles of music? It seems hip hop was the last big movement, and it was so bare bones and imitative of other forms that nothing could possibly come after it. All there is left to do is expose the largely white culture to foreign types of music.

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well right now im listening to a band that plays metallica songs using cellos. which is pretty fucking original if you ask me

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It's cool, but it's not severely more original than using a symphony orchestra. It's more a gimmick than a new style.

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like hip hop was more of a gimmicky rap then a new style?

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Cello's are pretty similar in sound to electric guitars as it goes.

Found that out after trying for a few hours to mimic a cello for this band I was auditioning for, before I read the small print......

..........cello on ****** played by ******.

And Apolyptica are pretty much a one listen to combo, after all Metallica write shit songs with crap meoldies.

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ok then, music is dead, nothing new can ever be made

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Doesn't matter if it's new, it's the mojo that counts.

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New styles reflect new ways of living and new global perspectives. I think to the extent that culture in general is necessary, originality is necessary.

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Then again, there is only so much the human mind and ear can do with the sounds we can hear.

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you must lead the way, plum.




go ahead. we'll be right along. don't look back...

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ive given up ont he music INDUSTRY because they are the ones responsible for the bubblegum bullshit thats been perpetuated like the whole jessica simpson phenomena.

im mostly listening to foreign ethnic music lately (like sitar music....ravi shankar rocks ) and trying to find other genres that i never really listened to before. i am kind of hooked on teh black eyed peas since i saw them in saturday night live. fergie is fuckin hot and she has the voice of an angel!

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fergie is fuckin hot and she has the voice of an angel!


weasel called her a nigger

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we've been listenin to Nusrat a good deal lately. I think it's Pakistani music. Good stuff.

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Jazz is the only truly original music of the past hundred years. Everything else is a variation of swing and bluegrass.

Or you could look at it from the perspective that artists are attempting to do something new with the same format. Maybe you are looking in the wrong places. Let's face it, there really is no new art after the Renaissance, though we continue to say there is.

Or maybe you're just plum, and that's the problem.

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quote:
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Jazz is the only truly original music of the past hundred years. Everything else is a variation of swing and bluegrass.


bollocks.

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Seconded.

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all you people need to do is step outside your homes and check out your local bands.

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bollocks.


Quite the denial, as harsh as my first statement. Name one completely original style of music besides modern jazz from the past 100 years. Just one.

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techno, trance etc etc

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techno, trance etc etc


I knew someone would say that. Of course, it derives from dance music, jazz, and hip-hop. Nothing totally original about it.

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jazz uses various instruments that have been around for ages, nothing original there

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quote:
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jazz uses various instruments that have been around for ages, nothing original there


Name one thing that sounded anything like modern jazz before it.

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Now you're just acting like Phil.

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Name one thing that sounded anything like modern jazz before it.


First define modern jazz.

Addendum: Because as far as I'm concerned modern jazz is just a derivative of gospel, blues and bluegrass.

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