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For some reason, this one appeals to me.

She's very appealing, and I like her smile.

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MstrG, what gives? Why'd you delete Annah? It can't be nudity, since half the pics in here are nudes, and it can't be copyright since pictures of dominatrix models and fisting are most certainly the result of commercial collections online. You hating on my girl?

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she looks soo soft

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Yes, it was captured in a tidepool in Japan. There was a story about it on Tonmo.com, which you might want to visit if you're into giant squid. (http://www.tonmo.com)

The only known pictures of a live, reasonably healthy Architeuthis, if I am correct.



Yeah, it's doubtfull I'd ever find the other pictures after attempting to dig through the myriad of shit on that site. Got a direct link? I'd like more pictures than the one I have.

I think I got that from an article I read when they found it.

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Speaking of cephalopods, here's one of the more elusive kinds: The tree octopus, caught by a canopy researcher.



From here.

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Yeah, it's doubtfull I'd ever find the other pictures after attempting to dig through the myriad of shit on that site. Got a direct link? I'd like more pictures than the one I have.

I think I got that from an article I read when they found it.



You can find them here. The site is in Japanese, which I can't read, but it has the pics. Near the bottom of that page is a link to a page with more pictures.

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I found it, thanks.

Poor Translation of the Japanese Page:

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The enormous squid it appears! !

When in the Goshiki beach seashore of Amino Cho, overcoat length approximately 2m, the arm is extended on January 15th, the enormous squid which reaches to also 4m was captured.

At the point where inquires to Mr. Koutarou Tsuchiya of the Tokyo University of Fisheries, it was found that it is 1 kind of ダイオウイカ.

ダイオウイカ large number is discovered from midst of the stomach of the sperm whale, but as for the squid which this time is captured the arm to be thick the possibility of being new species is high in comparison with those, so is.

As for the specimen in a complete way, those which even in the world nearly 30 years ago are collected in Tottori prefecture just is 1 individual.

Sending to the National Science Museum as a valuable specimen, it is the schedule which is investigated.

Offering the people and the photograph of the local end which cooperation it receives to capture conveyance, and the like gratitude says in Chief Yoshino ward chief and Nakagawa of the Amino town hall agriculture and forestry marine products section whom it receives.

Method of being which more looked at the photograph clickingthis!

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Spitting スミ, still, living it probably will do, is.

In spite even in the night, everyone of local end came to multitude sight-seeing.

While being connected to one late quay, it died. Discharge in order to keep with the refrigerator.
It is sent by the university, is investigated.

It returns to the front page

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It is Architeuthis Clem; I'm surprised the images are online .... there are more, and they're sensational, but they're not images that a doco company could use, as some of them are pretty barbaric (the ropes). The specimen is now preserved in Japan.

I first saw these last year, in addition to another quite stunning pic ... and I'll say no more. I'm glad that the images are finally online, as it is THE FIRST LIVE ARCHITEUTHIS EVER PHOTOGRAPHED!!!

The images were used to try and secure funds to get a submersible working trenches off Japan, but the bid to secure funds was not successful. It is a shame really.

There's more that can be added to this story.

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.... details are sketchy, but from what I understand the specimen was 'noosed' at sea (it was floating on the surface), then hauled back to land; it's in a big rockpool. There is no video (I asked last year; just these stills). The loss of skin could be attributed to capture treatment.

The eye is sitting within a socket in the head; note the anterior sinus .... they're not supposed to have this ... it's always lost in the frozen specimens (very onychoteuthid-like in appearance). The socket into which the eye fits is muscular, so what it is doing here is constricting, obscuring much of the eye.

ps, yes, that's a keel
pps, it's probably worthy of its own thread, don't you think??
ppps, the next sensational find is likely to be a live ammonite!

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Whenever I've had an Architeuthis lens it has been transluscent/colourless, so I think the yellow colour is an artefact of the flash. The actual eye often has a pink/golden sheen, so the colour of the lens could have something to do with reflection from the eye itself.

Not sure.

.... wish I had been there!


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You guys are surprising me no end!!! That Architeuthis is actually the largest I've ever had, at ML 2.25 metres (when fresh). It is a specimen that I sent to the National Science Museum, Taichung, Taiwan, some 4 or 5 years ago now (one of the best trips I've ever had) - a specimen sent to a good friend, Prof Chung-Cheng Lu (you'll see him also on one of the docos).

I had only seen one other, poor-quality image of it. The museum itself is probably one of the best museums in the world - it rivals anything in the USA - truly sensational, and the people there were fantastic. It was during this trip that Lu showed me the only known specimen of a new deep-sea cirrate (a specimen of something we've since described as Luteuthis shuishi (the genus named after Lu)). I can't wait to go back!
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Steve-O talking about this Japanese site:
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Phil, all, the first image (in the tank) is definitely Architeuthis, but I don't think this is the same specimen that you saw in the earlier 'mega-squid' photographs (something Tsunemi Kubodera said last year ... I think that specimen has been on display for quite a few years; I don't recall the name of the museum in Japan that it is on display).

The second suite of images are rather interesting.
The first 2 images are of Thysanoteuthis rhombus

The next two, some ommastrephid (possibly Ommastrephes, but don't quote me!!!)

The next two, another ommastrephid (possibly Eucleoteuthis luminosa)

The next two, in the water, something weird but non-architeuthid (the head is far narrower than the mantle) - it is possibly a spent female Moroteuthis, but I'd like to have a closer look at it.

The next two images have me scratching my head; they're very interesting, and really Architeuthis cannot be discounted - but I'd like to see the specimen. How many rows of suckers can people see on the arms? Four?? Difficult - could be a mega-gonatid squid; it doesn't look like an onychoteuthid to me (as in not Moroteuthis robusta).

The final image is most likely that of Grimalditeuthis

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What we do know is that they migrate into NZ waters to breed; from where they come we wouldn't have a clue.

We know that the larvae are found at point x and time y, but after that we wouldn't have a clue where they go (depth and location).

We believe that the adults are only ~ 1.5 years old, but the techniques we're using have not been validated (but are about to be).

We know that the adults are ammoniacal, but we don't know whether this is true of the larvae (and it is unlikely to be the case).

We know that the larvae occur in the shallows (upper metre or so) [at night] and we know that the adults aren't found (locally) shallower than 275 metres, but we don't know where the intermediate-sized animals live (is it 30m, 100m, 1000m....).

We now recognise no evidence for more than 1 world-wide species.

We know that the juveniles eat large prey (relatively speaking), probably 1-1.5 times the size of the larva, and we know that the adults eat small prey (relatively speaking), primarily squid several orders of magnitude smaller than the Architeuthis (in press right now), but we don't know what the intermediate-sized animals are eating, where they eat, what depth they occur at, and even where they are found. Humungous holes in our knowledge. All we can tell you is where the juveniles/immature individuals DO NOT occur (limited by sampling intensity).

The frightening thing is that this lack of knowledge applies to almost every squid (and octopus) species. We really are in the dark. ... and we probably know a lot more about Architeuthis than we do about the majority of other squid species!

I don't view this as a negative. A few years ago the larval Architeuthis was completely unknown to science, they were saying the adults were found in Kaikoura Canyon, that they ate orange roughy, assumed they resided in NZ waters throughout the year, lived at depths 1000-1500 metres (and probably deeper), that there were up to 19 species, then down to three, .... and the two greats, that they grew to lengths of 20 metres and weights of a ton or so. They also said it was the largest squid ..... And the one that really smarts, that I'd never be able to keep deep-sea squid alive in captivity!

Not bad for a couple of years I say; I just need a little more help down under, and a few more breaks (luck is a major contributing factor).

WK/all, I'm the first to admit that we're stabbing in the dark in the absence of hard data, and the first to admit that I got something wrong - and man-oh-man have I screwed up big time along the way.

.... and we probably know a little bit more about Archi than the synopsis above would indicate.

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