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Great Sushi

I am under the impression that Florida makes the best sushi in the country. There are a plethora of restaurants in the area that offer great sushi, even Korean, Thai and Chinese places have sushi bars in them.

What are some of the great sushi places in your area? I'll list some here and rank them as best I can.


California Grill (Contemporary Resort - Disney) - Best serving size (HUGE chunks of fish, little or no rice) $$$$
Amura - Best variety of rolls $$
Napasorn (Thai) - Best specials (Dragon Roll Rules!)$$
Fuji Sushi - Lots of selections of fish $

These are the most popular ones we visit, but there are plenty more and they're always excellent.

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Re: Great Sushi

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I am under the impression that Florida makes the best sushi


Could it possibly be because if Georgia didn't suck like a Malaysian Hoover, Florida would be an island surrounded by fresh fish?

I hear sushi is pretty good in Japan too.
What with being surrounded on all sides by water and fresh seafood and all.

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apparently vancouver has better japanese food than japan. japanese people say so anyway, but i don't really trust them and their westophilia. there are a million sushi places though. they're everywhere.

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Florida has good fish to work with, but the chefs lack skills and the consumers lack sophistication to know what good sushi should be.

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Ther's a place called "The sushi boat" in Santa Cruz that I thought was pretty good (not like I've had a lot of sushi) but the chef made his goodness and put it on little boats in a moat that cruised around the bar. Being the hick that I am, I didn't just grab the stuff off the boats, I just stopped the boats with my hand causing a boat jam in the moat. Boy, talk about dirty looks. I single handedly (literally) pissed off the whole lunch crowd.

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Kulu-Kulu Sushi in Covent Garden, London.

I go there every Saturday. The plates are between £1.20 and £3.40 each, and I normally put away between 4 and 7 plates, depending on how greedy I'm feeling, and I normally spend around £10-15. Green tea is free of charge, the staff are very friendly and the food is bloody gorgeous.

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Florida has good fish to work with, but the chefs lack skills and the consumers lack sophistication to know what good sushi should be.


From what I've heard, this is 3rd party information so bare with me, that the best female chef in Japan makes sushi at California Grill. Are you sophisticated enough to know what good sushi should be?

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i am partial to hot dogs in pork n beans.

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Believe it or not, in this little, land-locked state of Utah, we have a few good sushi establishments. Hell, even in the tiny town I live in they have opened a sushi bar that serves great fish that is flown in daily. I am on a first name basis with the chefs and one of the few "regulars." Being a regular at a sushi bar has it's advantages; chefs like to show off for you and present some beautiful food. You also need not pick up a menu because they know what you like and will take care of you from the time you sit down. Every time I travel, I try and find a good sushi bar. Seems the company is always good there.

Here are my favorites:
Salt Lake - Shogun. Only 8 seats at the bar and the best sushi I've had in Utah.

Salt Lake - Happy Sumo. They make a "surf and turf" roll that has steak and shrimp in it. Definitely a plus.

St. George - Samurai 21. Not only good sushi, but the ONLY sushi bar here!

Las Vegas - Hikari. An "all you can eat" that actually has sashimi on the menu! Also one of the only sushi buffets with spiders any way you want them. It's around 26 bucks and worth every penny.

I am the World's biggest Unagi fan.

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Dear Cecil:

My wife loves sushi. Sushi is just raw fish. Raw fish is full of deadly contaminants. Is she doomed? Pull no punches. --Mike M., Chicago

Cecil replies:

Mike, I have to be honest with you. There is a big potential problem here. It involves something that's small, pink, and crawls.

HINT: You're not likely to chuck it under the chin and go, "Ooh, CUTE Baby Snookums."

You got it, pal. Worms.

Eating raw fish can result in anisakiasis, an infection caused by an infestation of Anisakis worm larvae.

Now, don't panic, it's not that bad. They're not BIG worms. Not like one of those tapeworms, which can be a foot or two in length and take up more room in your abdominal cavity than you do.

No, these are LITTLE worms. They grow up to a mere one inch in length.

This is not comforting you, I can tell. Sorry, I'm doing the best I can.

If you're lucky, the worms will wind up in your stomach, where the chief symptom is generally a sudden attack of intolerable pain. It starts within 12 hours after eating the affected fish and continues for two or three days, until the worms expire.

If you're not as fortunate, the larvae head down to your intestines, where they can take up permanent residence.

You could think of them as low-maintenance pets. I mean, you don't have to walk them. To be considerate, every once in a while you could sort of jiggle, so they get some exercise. As for eating--well, I guess they take care of that on their own.

Maybe you don't want to think about it.

Cases of anisakiasis turn up from time to time in Japan and the Netherlands, where raw fish eating is common. Here the disorder is often misdiagnosed as appendicitis, peptic ulcer, or stomach cancer.

The only treatment is to poke a tube down your craw and remove the larvae one by one. The only preventive measure is to cook the fish or else freeze it at least three days.

(Mercifully, many Japanese restaurants purchase squid and whatnot frozen. Shrimp, eel, and octopus are often cooked.)

Some of the assassins who run sushi bars will tell you they can check for worms by "candling," holding the fish up to the light and cutting out the larvae before slapping what's left on your platter.

The Centers for Disease Control, however, say the efficacy of this method is on a par with rain dancing.

Now understand, I'm not saying you're GUARANTEED to get worms if you eat sushi, or, for that matter, sashimi, ceviche, or some other type of raw fish cuisine. Think of it as kind of a remote threat, like nuclear war. Or else stick to Chicken McNuggets.

THE RAW FISH LOBBY REGISTERS A COMPLAINT

Dear Cecil:

You recently carried an item about sushi in which your querent (nice term, n'est-ce pas? Got it from a tarot card reader) says "sushi is just raw fish."

I am tired of hearing this. Sushi is not just raw fish. Not even sashimi is just raw fish, although it's a hell of a lot closer than sushi is.

Many sushi dishes contain cooked fish and/or vegetables. You can start with kappa-maki, which generally contains seaweed, sushi-rice, cucumber, and wasabi.

(Wasabi, incidentally, is not horseradish, or mustard either. It's Wasabia japonica, and is sui generis as far as I'm concerned.)

Then there is salmon-skin handroll, for which they carefully cook the fish so you needn't worry about it. A good place will put such goodies as gobo (pickled Burdock root) into this, and it becomes a major delight.

Also there is "tiger eye," which is cooked, as is most eel sushi.

I generally end with ume-jiso-maki, which contains umeboshi plum paste, shiso, leaves, rice, and seaweed, and is a bit salty but wonderful. There are plenty more where these came from. --Jon S., Boulder, Colorado

Dear Cecil:

You recently recommended that people avoid sushi since raw fish is prone to parasitic infestation. Unfortunately, the issue is not that clear cut.

Hours after reading your column, I sat through a pathology lecture in which the professor described the risks associated with eating COOKED fish.

Sugimura has demonstrated that the pyrolosis products [what results when you expose fish to flame] of fish protein are strongly mutagenic and carcinogenic. So maybe we should avoid fish altogether.

On the other hand, fish is very high in monounsaturated fats, and in this respect it seems to be one of the best dietary interventions for preventing coronary heart disease, the nation's leading cause of death. What to do? --Keith B., Chicago

Dear Keith:

I'd say the benefits of fish clearly outweigh the risks, even though I'm not all that crazy about the raw version (and I say this as much from as aesthetic standpoint as anything else; the actual danger of parasite infestation is pretty low).

Here's a quick rundown on what researchers have found:

(1) Greenland Eskimos, who eat a high-fish diet, rarely die of heart disease.

(2) In a 20-year study of 852 men conducted by the University of Leiden in the Netherlands, men who ate one ounce of fish a day were half as likely to suffer a heart attack. Studies also show a low heart-disease rate among Japanese fish-lovers.

(3) According to researchers at Oregon Health Sciences University, a high fish-oil diet reduced dangerous triglyceride ("bad fat") levels. Triglycerides are thought to increase the risk of heart disease.

So I guess the answer is, pass the fish cakes. Just don't eat 'em if they move.

EATING IT RAW: AN UPDATE

To the Teeming Millions:

Readers who recall Cecil's discussion of the hazards of eating raw fish will be fascinated by a recent report in the New England Journal of Medicine.

It seems a 24-year-old student with a pain in his right side underwent surgery for appendicitis. His appendix was found to be normal, but surgeons were startled to see a 10-inch pinkish-red worm crawl out of the guy's body.

Turned out to be a Eustrongylides, a parasite normally found in fish-eating birds. The victim, obviously not a regular reader of the Straight Dope, said he ate sushi and sashimi once a month.

My feeling is, if you must eat this stuff, make sure you first give it a good going-over with a rock.

AN UPDATE UPDATE: OK TO USE SMALL ROCK

Dear Cecil:

Re the 10-inch post-sushi stomach worm, enclosed is a page from a recent Nutrition Action Healthletter. Turns out the Sushi Worm From Hell was "only" about 1-1/2 inches long. Some comfort. --Junu Kim, Chicago

It seems the editors of Nutrition Action, from which I got this horrifying item, multiplied instead of dividing when converting from the metric. I am surrounded by schmucks.

--CECIL ADAMS

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Worms on the brain.

Ouchie.

Amen.

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I don't like sushi. But, I have a gf who loves the stuff. She lived in Japan for a year, after all. So, anyway, that means I have sushi from time to time. I've never been to Florida so I can't tell you about the sushi there. I've had some in Louisiana, not bad. I've had lots of it here in California, and I thought it was decent. I had some in Australia and didn't think it was so bad. But, the best I had was in Vancouver (though, not the night I met BP). I think my gf would probably say the best she had was in Japan. Though, she did seem to really rave about the sushi she had in Australia.

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BP, funny you say that about the Japanese food in Vancouver. I've always heard that it was Chinese food that was better in Vancouver than in Chinese restaurants. "All" the big name chefs move from Hong Kong to BC, they say.

Sushi is not raw fish, nor is it vegetables. It is, literally, "vinegar rice." Sashimi is slices of raw fish, so if you want to order a dish that is just raw fish, order sashimi. Sushi (the rice, mind you) is often served with raw and cooked seafood on top, but is also prepared by simply stuffing a deep fried tofu pocket (with a sweet taste) or even mixed with vegetables in a dish that many would initially think to be the classic midwestern fare, 'hotdish'.

Personally I like sushi with fish better than just sashimi. I like the fatty fish like tuna and salmon more as well. My in-laws eat sashimi every Friday night and I get my fair share of it. It is tasty, but it has to be fresh. The texture is more likely to turn people off over the taste.

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The texture is what turned me on to the goodness. The tuna anyway. I haven't the balls to eat the octipi yet.

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It's like chewing on a Goodyear tire.

The only texture that I haven't liked was urchin. Flavor was good but the texture was bad, bad, bad.

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Salt Lake - Happy Sumo. They make a "surf and turf" roll that has steak and shrimp in it. Definitely a plus.



Is the steak tar tar? Sounds interesting. Tough, but interesting.
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Las Vegas - Hikari. An "all you can eat" that actually has sashimi on the menu! Also one of the only sushi buffets with spiders any way you want them. It's around 26 bucks and worth every penny.



Something about all you can eat sashimi seems wrong. "As it becomes available" might be more fitting.

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I am the World's biggest Unagi fan.



Wretched, but this brings up something. Do you ever overeat sushi? I mean, like order too many rolls or nagiri or sashimi and the fish all starts to run together and the texture starts to become gross? This happens to me sometimes. Unagi takes me there in one bite. Clearly Ahi wins.

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The texture is what turned me on to the goodness. The tuna anyway. I haven't the balls to eat the octipi yet.


Don't listen to Cruise. It's not that bad. It's more rubbery than the goodness that is salmon and tuna, but you have to look around sometimes. I think makerel is more rubbery than octopus.

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I had some red snapper once. Tasty but chewy. I wannted eel but they didn't have any.

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That urchin yer eatin is roe, not the urchin itself, and yeah, it's great stuff. I like sashimi better'n sushi. The best place in Minneapolis that I'm aware of at present is a couple of blocks from BlueOx's flat over in the warehouse district, and it's called Oregami.

The best sushi bar I've ever eaten at was in Montreal in the gayborhood there, but I can't remember the name, and none ofyou live in Montreal anyway. Sashimi's not dangerous if you get it from a reputable place. That's one reason why it's so expensive, the spoilage involved and the freight. Add to that the fact that most sushi chefs are overpaid prima donas, and you start addin up the bucks.

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I love octopus and squid sashimi, but what yer gettin is usually steamed, I think, and not actually raw. Eel is usually smoked as well. I'm no expert on it, however.

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Thank you. I don't know if I will ever be able to truly enjoy my sashimi ever again.

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Sushi is not raw fish, nor is it vegetables. It is, literally, "vinegar rice." Sashimi is slices of raw fish, so if you want to order a dish that is just raw fish, order sashimi. Sushi (the rice, mind you) is often served with raw and cooked seafood on top, but is also prepared by simply stuffing a deep fried tofu pocket (with a sweet taste) or even mixed with vegetables in a dish that many would initially think to be the classic midwestern fare, 'hotdish'.


Very interesting Nute.

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