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Bit torrent - The Empire has noticed

And it is not happy.
http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/2004...rent/index.html

"BitTorrent" gives Hollywood a headache

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By Alex Veiga

Dec. 12, 2004 | LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Bram Cohen didn't set out to upset Hollywood movie studios. But his innovative online file-sharing software, BitTorrent, has grown into a piracy problem the film industry is struggling to handle.

As its name suggests, the software lets computer users share large chunks of data. But unlike other popular file-sharing programs, the more people swap data on BitTorrent, the quicker it flows -- and that includes such large files as feature films and computer games.

Because of its speed and effectiveness, BitTorrent steadily gained in popularity after the recording industry began cracking down last year on users of Kazaa, Morpheus, Grokster and other established file-sharing software.

The program now accounts for as much as half of all online file-sharing activity, says Andrew Parker, chief technology officer of Britain-based CacheLogic, which monitors such traffic.

"BitTorrent is more of a threat because it is probably the latest and best technological tool for transferring large files like movies," said John Malcolm, senior vice president of anti-piracy operations for the Motion Picture Association of America. "It is unusual, perhaps unique, in that the moment you start downloading you are also uploading," he added. "It's what makes it so efficient."

Cohen created BitTorrent in 2001 as a hobby after the dot-com crash left him unemployed. He says the aim was to enable computer users to easily distribute content online -- not specifically copyrighted content.

"It seems pretty clear that a lot of people are actively interested in engaging in wanton piracy," said Cohen, 29, of Bellevue, Wash. "As far as I'm concerned, they're just pushing around bits, and what bits it is they're pushing around is not really a concern of mine. There's not much I can do about it."

BitTorrent has proven to be resistant to some of the countermeasures the entertainment industry has taken to sabotage file-sharing, including a process known as file-spoofing in which incomplete or decoy versions of songs or other material are uploaded to discourage piracy.

"Spoofing is very difficult on BitTorrent, if at all possible," said Mark Ishikawa, chief executive of online tracking firm BayTSP Inc. "There's no defense for this one."

Programs such as Kazaa and Morpheus allow users to link their PCs to computer networks and then query a search engine for the file or title they're seeking. The software then churns out a list of other computers sharing the file.

The process is simple and straightforward, which makes it relatively easy to corrupt with spoofed files.

With BitTorrent, however, users don't find whole files. The program seeks out torrent files, also known as seed files, that are hosted by a number of Web sites.

The files on the Web sites are not songs or movies but serve as markers that point the way to other users sharing a given file. BitTorrent then assembles complete files from multiple chunks of data obtained from everyone who is sharing the file.

Attempts to upload bogus files to corrupt the process fail because the BitTorrent program follows a blueprint of the original file when piecing it together.

"It's very difficult for an interdiction company to get in the middle of that system," said Ishikawa, whose company combs file-sharing networks on behalf of Hollywood studios and alerts clients when their movies turn up on the Internet.

Some of the BitTorrent host sites, like SuprNova.org, generate a daily list of new seed files added by users. The site recently had listings for movies such as "Van Helsing" and "Wimbledon," which is not scheduled for release on DVD for another three weeks.

Some sites offer digitized broadcasts of "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart," computer games like "Star Trek: Klingon Academy" and "Half Life 2," e-books on the physics behind an atomic bomb, even footage of kidnap victims in the Middle East.

"A bunch of the different beheadings are online," Ishikawa said.

Downhill Battle, a Worcester, Mass.-based independent music group that has developed its own BitTorrent-based software called Blog Torrent, says the technology is much more than a tool for swapping copyright movies and software (a blog is a Web journal).

"What we're excited about as far as BitTorrent goes is the possibility for people to blog video and blog their own home movies (and) independent films and have a way to distribute them online without having to have a big budget for Web-hosting," said Nicholas Reville, one of the group's directors.

"Bandwidth has been a big barrier," he said. "BitTorrent solved that."

While some of the BitTorrent sites that host seed files have been forced to shut down, many others escape scrutiny because they're only hosting marker files, not copyrighted material.

Malcolm of the MPAA says his organization is not focusing any more or less on BitTorrent than other file-sharing system. He declined to say whether the trade group intends to sue Cohen and wouldn't name any BitTorrent users who may have been included in the entertainment industry's latest wave of lawsuits.

"Anyone who uses BitTorrent and is under the illusion that they are anonymous are sorely mistaken," Malcolm said. "There is no reason why those lawsuits wouldn't include BitTorrent" users.

So far, Cohen said, he has not become a target of the entertainment industry, which has aggressively pursued litigation against other file-sharing software distributors, with mixed success. On Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal by movie studios and music labels of a ruling that found Grokster Ltd. and StreamCast Networks Inc., the firm behind the Morpheus software, to not be responsible for their customers' online swapping of copyright songs and movies.

For his part, Cohen said he has received just one legal warning, over a computer game that was being distributed using BitTorrent.

"Someone else was doing something with BitTorrent that I had no knowledge of," Cohen said. "It's not being done on any machines I have any control over ... what do you want me to do?"
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Considering they managed to stop Napster, then begot a multiheaded hydra with Kazaa, Limewire etc. their track record at stopping P2P of any type isn't so good overall. I doubt people are scared at all.

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hollywood doesn't seem to be losing any money. it's hard to sell me on the evils of piracy when I've seen enough episodes of MTV Cribs.

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I cried when suprnova.org went subscription.

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Is there not a piece of software that prevents BitTorrent users being identified? Or did I imagine reading that?

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quote:
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Is there not a piece of software that prevents BitTorrent users being identified? Or did I imagine reading that?


I would not think so, unless you are using a proxy or ssh tunneling or something to misdirect from your IP.

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I installed it today and looked around a bit. It seems rather intuitive. I dl some Bill Hicks and then realized I could get anything I wanted more or less right off his website. There's some funny shit there.

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I cried when suprnova.org went subscription.


Not sure what Suprnova.org you tried to access, but I went there tonight and had no problems. And I've subscribed to nothing.

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is it Mac compatible?
Is there a link?
Am I worthy?

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Ok. I googled and installed!
Now what?

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no warez allowed

but theres nuff info here for anyone thats not a retard to figger it out

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Dunno if I'd classify BT's as warez. The program itself is definitely not warez.
So I'll just say this..look for a site where people use BT's LF.

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well yeah but theres still all the information yo uneed in this thread

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quote:

I cried when suprnova.org went subscription.


Nay.
I'm there now. Dot com and dot net are scammers!
http://search.suprnova.org/
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Dunno if I'd classify BT's as warez. The program itself is definitely not warez.
So I'll just say this..look for a site where people use BT's LF.


Bit torrent is a sourceforge project. It's an open source protocol.
The main client is yonder.
http://bittorrent.com/download.html
(You'll find an OS X dmg to unpack)
source here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bittorrent/

Java based client (though I've had trouble with this client being a version behind. Some trackers won't let you play with old clients)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus/

Another BitTorrent Client
http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/

and some other stuff
http://g3torrent.sourceforge.net/

http://www.bittornado.com/

http://xbtt.sourceforge.net/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/shareaza/

http://www.ptc-bt.net/

All, with the exception of bittornado, is directly from source forge. It's da bomb.

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Of course I never use it to do anything illegal so neither should you.
I just watch wacky japanese anime with it:
http://a.scarywater.net/anbu/
that's all.

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I use the BitComet client. It's not terribly complicated, but it allows me to pick and choose files to download from a torrent.

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warez is the new black

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To use bittorrent, all you have to do is install a client (of which TWOO graciously provided plenty of bootstrapping links). Then you download torrent files, which will connect you to other users downloading the file.

I use the standard basic normal regular Bram Cohen with the beer glass client for OSX. I double click a .torrent file and it asks me where i want to save it. I choose a place, wait for a while, and that's that.

Lots of different stuff is available. Much of it legal, some of it violates copyright law in the United States. But BitTOrrent itself is content neutral. Many trailers and linux distros are seeded that way and live music is also traded that way, all purely legal.

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quote:
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no warez allowed

but theres nuff info here for anyone thats not a retard to figger it out


Right now it won't open anything. I think it's because it has no seed. I will learn and get smart! I will. I WILL!!

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Nay.
I'm there now. Dot com and dot net are scammers!
http://search.suprnova.org/



Weird. I triple checked this last night. I think maybe I must have misspelled suprnova.

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"keep your torrent downloads open after you've finished downloading!Thanks!"
What does this mean? Keep your window open? Why?

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Right now it won't open anything. I think it's because it has no seed. I will learn and get smart! I will. I WILL!!

And then you will dl Spy Kids 2.

Keep window open because:
"It is unusual, perhaps unique, in that the moment you start downloading you are also uploading," he added. "It's what makes it so efficient."

And it's the courteous thing to do. Especially when you're not paying that creepy dude with the ponytail.

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