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Large Filipino
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: in colorado somewhere!
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My Smokes

HEEEELLLPPPP!!!!!
Soon that Colorado tobacco increase will take effect on Jan 1,2005.
I want to retailiate by ordering my smokes online. I waited for my first carton and it never showed up yet.
Then,I got this e-mail:

quote:
Unfortunately we were unable to ship your order.

Order Date: 20 November, 2004

As you may already know, all international shipments (from all
cigarette web sites) have been disrupted by customs problems in the USA. Our
opinion is that this is not justified and we are working on a solution to
the problem.

Due to these problems we have not been able to ship your order - your
order has been cancelled and refunded.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Best Regards,
247 Tobacco


Does anybody out there know what I should do?
(besides quitting or paying up or any other communist solution like that)

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Grow weed.

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Stop smoking.

edit: I didn't see that bit about 'besides quitting'.

Grow weed.

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Large Filipino
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..............but............and............well..........yea..........no!

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Switch to rolling your own.

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All tobacco products will be getting taxed, so even roll your own isn't going to be that cheap anymore.

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It'll still be cheaper. Only by a small amount.

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LF, quickest way I know to give yerself a nice, monthly raise is to quit smoking. I curse the day I started smoking. I've ceased smoking several times over the years. With this latest effort, I haven't had one since Sept. 25th. That was when I had walking pneumonia. It took me 3 months to get well, but maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Since getting sick, I cannot tolerate the smell as it literally makes me ill.

Amen.

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You can blame me, LF. I voted for the tax as a way to "encourage" me to quit.

I'm sure I'll just end up all the poorer though...

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quote:
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LF, quickest way I know to give yerself a nice, monthly raise is to quit smoking.....Amen.

...BUT IT'S SO TASTY!!!!

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Tasty?! What the hell? One thing I never thought when I used to smoke was "Damn, this is a tasty smoke."

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quote:
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...BUT IT'S SO TASTY!!!!

I thought so, too.

But, really. It ain't tasty.

Amen.

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quote:
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Switch to rolling your own.

I did that for a while till cops kept pulling me over thinking I was smoking dope.
And it's harsh as hell. And the price of the filters offset the savings.

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quote:
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Tasty?! What the hell? One thing I never thought when I used to smoke was "Damn, this is a tasty smoke."

My first smoke,I said "DAMM! THIS IS MIGHTY TASTY!!"

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The only thing I've ever thought while smoking was "This tastes like Christmas" while I smoked a clove cancer stick.

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Large Filipino
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Now those are really tasty. But those make me dizzy.

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You can blame me, LF. I voted for the tax as a way to "encourage" me to quit.

I'm sure I'll just end up all the poorer though...

you suck. you have no self control and so your immediate response is to place limitations on others to compensate.

fuck you.

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I did no such thing.

Thanks though!

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you voted for a tax to encourage you to quit.

ie you dont have the self control to quit, so you asked the government to help you out, and the result is limitation on the freedom of others.

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I am soooooooo friggin glad I don't smoke anymore --- I am NOT Self -Rightous though.. your choice --- Just be darn cautious as to what you pray for....!!!!

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I used to think that there was a financial barrier to smoking. When I was a child, my grampa had a grocery store. He sold cigarettes for 20-cents a pack.

I remember when my smokes cost me a dollar a pack and word got out that a new tax was gonna raise 'em to a buck 'n' a quarter a pack. I thought that was outrageous at the time and so did my friends. We all agreed that when that 2-bit a pack increase hit, we'd just quit.

Fast-forward.

My state is getting ready to impose a 55-cent per pack additional tax on cigarettes. If I was still smoking, that would put my price per pack at around $3.00, provided I bought 'em by the carton. At an average of two packs per day, I figure the cost of my habit would then be around $180.00 per month. Trouble with such calculations, however, is they nearly always are too low.

Even when I was buyin' 'em by the carton, if I ran out and didn't have access at the time to my discounted source, I'd just go to a convenience store and get a pack, or two, frequently at over $4.00 per (with sales tax added). I don't know how many times I've been in a bar, or club, run outta smokes, and promptly put $5-$6 worth of quarters in the machine for another pack.

I've never calculated the expense to my clothing and upholstery, but it's piled up over the years. All it takes is one hot coal and VOILA! Yer shirt is ruined.

What I'm ultimately getting at is this ~ Based upon my own experience, I honestly don't believe raising the price of smokes cause that many people to quit. I suppose it might if the price was raised overnight to, say, a hunnerd bucks a pack. All this would do, however, is create a black market for smokes.

When I was smoking and needed smokes, I paid whatever was necessary to get 'em. It occurs to me that smokers provide an incredibly captive, reliable, and predictable source for legislatures needing to increase revenue.

Amen.

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quote:
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you voted for a tax to encourage you to quit.

ie you dont have the self control to quit, so you asked the government to help you out, and the result is limitation on the freedom of others.



Though the money raised with that tax could possibly expand the freedom of others. I'm wary of people who profess to know the result of complicated things such as an increase on cigarette tax to boot.


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Even when I was buyin' 'em by the carton, if I ran out and didn't have access at the time to my discounted source, I'd just go to a convenience store and get a pack, or two, frequently at over $4.00 per (with sales tax added). I don't know how many times I've been in a bar, or club, run outta smokes, and promptly put $5-$6 worth of quarters in the machine for another pack.



You carried that many quarters on you?

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quote:
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I did that for a while till cops kept pulling me over thinking I was smoking dope.
And it's harsh as hell. And the price of the filters offset the savings.

IN the Phillipines?

You must be high. Or else we're not thinking of the same Phillipines...where $50 will get you out of any trouble with the cops

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