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willimo
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Aha! NCLB exposed.

I knew there was an agenda.

quote:
Requires each LEA that receives funds under the ESEA to provide, on request by a military recruiter or an institution of higher education, access to the names, addresses, and telephone listings for secondary students.


Here:
http://ci.sbcss.k12.ca.us/nclb/abou...rt_e/page07.php

and here:
http://www.ncpie.org/nclbaction/armed_forces.html

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What a waste of time and energy. I say recruit them as soon as they are born.

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What do all the acronyms mean?

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willimo
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NCLB = No Child Left Behind act.
LEA = local education authority.
ESEA = Elementary and Secondary Education Act (passed in 1965, the NCLB act is an amendment to it).

So it really reads:

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[The NCLB] Requires each local education authorty [local school districts] that receives funds under the Elementary and Secondary Education Act to provide, on request by a military recruiter or an institution of higher education, access to the names, addresses, and telephone listings for secondary students.


This thread is hyperbole, I don't honestly beleive the whole No Child Left Behind garbage was just to provide lists for recruiters - I think it is an ill advised attempt at something good.

The issue here is that they even included it in the Act. No employment or higher education organization is going to ask for a list of all the students in the area, they don't need to. There are plenty of high school students coming to them. The fact that this rule is included in the act is already damnable enough, but then they thinly disguise it by saying it's really just to give the military recruiter the same benefits as employers or higher education.

Why is this damnable, you may ask? Who here has been approached by recruiters? I know from first hand experience that recruiters promise kids all sorts of things, and it's not just lightly treading the line. For instance, it's not "You can become a pilot if you enlist, are awesome, are lucky, and work your ass off," it's "Yeah! Join the Marines, I can gurantee you a pilot spot!" I have seen the recruiters in action, from both ends, from the being recruited and seeing some actually recruit people. It isn't just a few recruiters, either, it is a widespread phenomenon. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the recruiting manual. There is the option to opt out of having your name and number disclosed, but like everything else, it's the school's responability to make sure the kids and the parents know this. And how affective exactly do you think the schools are at diseminating such information?

Don't get me wrong, I am not against people joining the military, I've said before that my girl in in the Air Force, and I was almost in it too. It affords great opportunity for kids if that's what they want to do. What I am afraid of is the flood of calls from recruiters trying to make their quotas (and who are we fooling, that quota is going to be going up by leaps and bounds before too long), and these calls flooding these kids' minds with false promises so that they do not explore other avenues of employment or education available to them.

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At least it's an all voluntary military. They're agressive, because there is no other way. I've been given a once over by a recruiter and I sat with my cousin on several ocassions while a recruiter spoke to him at his house. It's a full court sales pitch for sure, but they gotta keep the soldiers coming. Otherwise what will they do to keep the numbers up?

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