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squee
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Some word games

Anyone who saw me discuss these in chat is disqualified. Don't spoil it!

1. Ethel and Margaret are walking along together. Ethel says, "Margaret, I'm sorry, I've forgotten how old your three children are."
Margaret says "The product of their ages is 36."
Ethel says "Hmm...I still don't remember."
Margaret says "If you add up their ages, the sum is your street address."
Ethel says "I still don't know."
Margaret says, "The oldest one has red hair."
How old are the three children?

2. You are an electrician.
In a house, there is an incandescent light bulb up in the attic. The bulb is controlled by one of three switches, located in the basement. The switches operate independently of each other.
Without using any aids whatsoever (no tools, gadgetry, or assistants of any kind), how can you determine which switch controls the light bulb? You may only make ONE trip to up and down (so you are not allowed to test them one by one).

3. You have in your posession 8 billiard balls. 7 of the balls weigh the same--the 8th weighs slightly less. How can you determine which ball is different using only TWO measurements of weight?

Final question...
4. You have four lengths of fuse. The fuses burn at different rates, but each fuse will totally burn up in exactly one hour. Using only these fuses and a book of matches, how can you mark off 1 hour and 45 minutes?

That's all I got...

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Easy, but I ain't gonna tell.

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2 is one of my favourites. If only because when I first heard it, I worked it out quickly. Rather than spending ages bashing my head against the table failing to do so.

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Re: Some word games

quote:
Originally posted by squee
1. Ethel and Margaret are walking along together. Ethel says, "Margaret, I'm sorry, I've forgotten how old your three children are."
Margaret says "The product of their ages is 36."
Ethel says "Hmm...I still don't remember."
Margaret says "If you add up their ages, the sum is your street address."
Ethel says "I still don't know."
Margaret says, "The oldest one has red hair."
How old are the three children?


Are we supposed to post answers?
If so, here's mine:[spoiler]

quote:
2. You are an electrician.
In a house, there is an incandescent light bulb up in the attic. The bulb is controlled by one of three switches, located in the basement. The switches operate independently of each other.
Without using any aids whatsoever (no tools, gadgetry, or assistants of any kind), how can you determine which switch controls the light bulb? You may only make ONE trip to up and down (so you are not allowed to test them one by one).

Do we start in the attic or the basement? That is, do we start in the basement, and are only allowed to go up to the attic once?

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3. You have in your posession 8 billiard balls. 7 of the balls weigh the same--the 8th weighs slightly less. How can you determine which ball is different using only TWO measurements of weight?

My answer:[spoiler]

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Final question...
4. You have four lengths of fuse. The fuses burn at different rates, but each fuse will totally burn up in exactly one hour. Using only these fuses and a book of matches, how can you mark off 1 hour and 45 minutes?

No idea right now.

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Re: Some word games

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4. You have four lengths of fuse. The fuses burn at different rates, but each fuse will totally burn up in exactly one hour. Using only these fuses and a book of matches, how can you mark off 1 hour and 45 minutes?

I suspect this may be cheating, but...[spoiler]

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4.[spoiler]

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To Tal on his #1 spoiler[spoiler]

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What is the other possible set that has same product of 36 and same sum?

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[spoiler]

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[spoiler]

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quote:
Originally posted by skalie
To Tal on his #1 spoiler[spoiler]

Because[spoiler]
EDIT: Smug said it first.

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What does her street address have to do with it? Could be anything.

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quote:
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What does her street address have to do with it? Could be anything.


Yes. But she knows what it is.

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quote:
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2 is one of my favourites. If only because when I first heard it, I worked it out quickly. Rather than spending ages bashing my head against the table failing to do so.


Ditto, and I worked it out even more quickly than you.

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quote:
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Yes. But she knows what it is.


Where does it say that?

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Here's a pretty easy one that I always liked:

Using only a "+" and an "=", put the following numbers in an equation that makes sense: 2, 3, 4, 5.

EDIT: You may only use each number once. Thanks, Skalie.

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[spoiler]
EDIT: Oops. Added spoiler tags.

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quote:
Originally posted by skalie
Where does it say that?


[spoiler]

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quote:
Originally posted by Trenchant_Troll
Here's a pretty easy one that I always liked:

Using only a "+" and an "=", put the following numbers in an equation that makes sense: 2, 3, 4, 5.


43+2=45
Or can we only use each once?

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5=2+3

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So on #2, we start in the basement and can only go up to the attic once?

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quote:
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So on #2, we start in the basement and can only go up to the attic once?


Yeah.

Hint[spoiler]

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#2[spoiler]

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