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Thoughts on God

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There is one fairly easy way for you to find out for sure if God exists.

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While I honor your belief, Tal, I do not share it.

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May God, in whatever form God takes for you, be with you.
All that comes from love, honor, and respect is of God.

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There is one fairly easy way for you to find out for sure if God exists.

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Indeed, that thought has occurred to me. The one thing we can all be absolutely sure that we will find out is what happens when we die.

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While I honor your belief, Tal, I do not share it.
I would say, instead: Since god is a construct of the mind of Man;

All that comes from love, honor, and respect is of Man.

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No problem, SimpleSimon. As far as I know, God (if there is a God, and if that God does judge) probably does not judge us on whether or not we believe in God, but rather on what we do with each other and with ourselves. I can respect what you said, and I'd rather live in a world in which nobody believes in God, but we all treat each other with respect and love, than one in which faith and cruelty are universal.

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when i read your blog entry this quote came in mind (though somewhat off topic)

Thoughts on free thought:
If God wanted to limit the freedom of thought, he would have created us that way.
The ability to combine and manipulate old ideas to new ones is what makes us creative.
That is why we are free thinkers and not robots.
The notion that certain ideas are deemed 'unthinkable' is a restriction put there by men.

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Given free will, the one thing God cannot force me to do is accept His will for me. However, He may let me have enough of mine that His becomes the only comfortable option.

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Given free will, the one thing God cannot force me to do is accept His will for me. However, He may let me have enough of mine that His becomes the only comfortable option.

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Given free will, the one thing God cannot force me to do is accept His will for me. However, He may let me have enough of mine that His becomes the only comfortable option.

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I'm not punished for my sins but by them. That, however, does not mean, as you say, that comforming my will to what I believe to be the will of God will ensure me some measure of comfort. It might, I suppose, but that is only incidental. That is like confusing the visions and gifts of contemplative prayer with the true object involved in its practice.

Merton's "The Ascent To Trutch" is a great book to check out if anyone's interested. Also St Teresa's "Interior Castle" and the writings of John of the Cross. I was always fascinated by the Catholic history of contemplative prayer and mysticism.

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I just pulled up Blake's "Proverbs of Hell" and this jumped out at me:

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Eternity is in love with the productions of time.

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The most sublime act is to set another before you.

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If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise.

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There is a god. I'm sure of it.
But God isn't basking in Heaven above the clouds where we think were all going to.
God is in our souls.
God is our conscience.
All our lives we have this thought in our heads that when we die we can still look down on our beloved and watch them grow and thrive then soon they will all meet up once again with us and all our fucking ansestors.
That's alot of souls.
Heaven and Hell is bullshit in my book cause when you're dead,you cannot feel pain.
You can't even feel.
I've come to this conclusion when a dear friend aquired alzheimers. When his brain was withering,so was his memory of me,his family then soon his self. He died cuddled up in a fetal position. Where's his soul there?
I think our soul is our entire body,not just our brain. But yet when his brain deterioated,his soul was still intact,but his soul stopped remembering who everyone was.
So when your dead,how can anyone believe we will still retain memory?
The fact remains. The earth is but a grain of sand in this universe. Our soul when still capable of retaining memory NEEDS the very reasoning and faith that formed religion.
Nobody really knows what's to come of us.
But we have to believe to keep from comming insane,which is why nothing I say will convert anyone into doubt cause that path of thinking is too fucking scary to think about.
It's warmer under the umbrella of other believers anyway,and living a christian life usually equates to a long and prosperous life.
I'll stop now cause this is turning into a blog.

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