Registered: Aug 2000
Location: I don't fukn' know!
Posts: 5137

you love them and yet you want to KILL THEM!(rant)

Just got back from thanksgiving w/dad, and I am yet again reminded
why I don't see my family all that often even though we live in the
same city.

I like and respect them, Esp. my Dad. Thing of it is, we have near
opposite views and value systems. He's very much a Christian (his
parents, who died long before I came along, were Appalachia hill folk,
very superstitious) which is fine with me, but if he knew I wasn't he
would go ballistic. He doesn't like the kind of people I hang out with,
how I dress, how he thinks I choose to spend my time, and he doesn't
understand why I still want to focus on art as a career because he hasn't
seen any immediate results (i/e I'm not able to support myself from it,
which is not unusual for people who don't go on to get their masters).

Anyway, Most of the time, he and the rest of my conservative family
don't say to much about it. But then there are moments, like this past
evening, where they feel they have to give me advice, whether I want it
or not.

I'm sure everyone has moments like this with their parents. I just don't
understand why, when I focus 8 years to a formal art education, had a
few shows, sold some works, why I would want to give all that up at the
beginning of my career and focus all my time and energy to work in an
office doing work that I consider mind draining. For me to give up that
dream is tantamount to suicide.

And now it's not just my dad, it's my brothers and occasionally my mom
too.

...


Man it's times like these when I want to move to another city


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Location: In a Blue, Blue State
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You can choose your friends, but not your relatives, as the old saying goes.

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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: GA
Posts: 6953

i learned to smile and nod a long time ago with my parents
as soon as they leave i fire up a joint and strip down buck nekkid.

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Beatrice, Nebraska
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Ugh, family.

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"Your experiment this week, Joel, is called Pod People. It has nothing to do with pods, it has nothing to do with people, it has everything to do with *hurting*." - Dr. Forrester, MST3K

Was it something you would do for anybody?
Was it what you'd only do for me?
Or was it something where you acted when you saw the need
And knew that there would be a way the act could be repaid
And so it may, but for today
I want to thank you for putting me back in my snail shell

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Location: Illinois
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quote:

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Originally posted by billgerat:
You can choose your friends, but not your relatives, as the old saying goes.

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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Shillington PA USA
Posts: 269

Postmodgirl I know exactly what you mean, my folks are the ultra religious types (Dad being a pastor and all) and I get the old "why didn't you finish college, is this web stuff going anywhere" even though I'm making more money than them combined, sometimes I just dont get the folks, I love em but *shrugs* sometimes I wish they would get a clue. Oh well thats my rant

JC

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Location: MA
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*jumps into thread and gives Graves a giant wedgie*

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Location: Shillington PA USA
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Oh ho! I see I try to be a smidge serious and get a wedgie eh? *contemplates revenge*

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Want a different title, Gravestone? Your nic REALLY doesn't go with adorable pussycat.

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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Shillington PA USA
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quote:

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Originally posted by wonderaz:
Want a different title, Gravestone? Your nic REALLY doesn't go with adorable pussycat.

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hmmmm you might have a point there


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Oh I don't know, it has a certain ironic fit, if you're into dead cat jokes.

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my parents despise me and think I am satan in the flesh. So today I pushed their buttons just a bit. Trust me it isnt hard. I put on my black leather pants, some black Docs, a shirt to show off my belly rings and used a hair crayon to put blue and purple streaks in my hair. My dad said "Do you expect to be invited over for x-mas when you rebel like this?" I thought I looked pretty cool and my stepbrother and stepsister loved it. My mom made some comments about "youre a mother and mothers dont look like freaks". Awwwww Thanksgiving was a success since I pissed them off.



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I can't bring myself to hate you as I'd like.

Laugh now, cry later!!

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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Texas
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quote:

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Originally posted by Postmodgirl:
Just got back from thanksgiving w/dad, and I am yet again reminded
why I don't see my family all that often even though we live in the
same city.

I like and respect them, Esp. my Dad. Thing of it is, we have near
opposite views and value systems. He's very much a Christian (his
parents, who died long before I came along, were Appalachia hill folk,
very superstitious) which is fine with me, but if he knew I wasn't he
would go ballistic. He doesn't like the kind of people I hang out with,
how I dress, how he thinks I choose to spend my time, and he doesn't
understand why I still want to focus on art as a career because he hasn't
seen any immediate results (i/e I'm not able to support myself from it,
which is not unusual for people who don't go on to get their masters).

Anyway, Most of the time, he and the rest of my conservative family
don't say to much about it. But then there are moments, like this past
evening, where they feel they have to give me advice, whether I want it
or not.

I'm sure everyone has moments like this with their parents. I just don't
understand why, when I focus 8 years to a formal art education, had a
few shows, sold some works, why I would want to give all that up at the
beginning of my career and focus all my time and energy to work in an
office doing work that I consider mind draining. For me to give up that
dream is tantamount to suicide.

And now it's not just my dad, it's my brothers and occasionally my mom
too.

...


Man it's times like these when I want to move to another city

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[Serious]
I can understand being 'looked down on' by parents. I've had that same feeling when I disagree with my own. But, I realize that no matter what they say or how they say it, they love me and that is their motivation.

PMG, if you are not supporting yourself yet, are they? If so, then I can see their 'material' concerns, can't you?

Perhaps a compromise could be attained somehow? What about a part-time job? Do you have 15 or 20 hrs a week you can devote to a mundane task for cash? Just a thought.

In Love & Truth,
Em



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Trying to fix or change something only perpetuates and guarentees it's existence.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Stellar:
my parents despise me and think I am satan in the flesh. So today I pushed their buttons just a bit. Trust me it isnt hard. I put on my black leather pants, some black Docs, a shirt to show off my belly rings and used a hair crayon to put blue and purple streaks in my hair. My dad said "Do you expect to be invited over for x-mas when you rebel like this?" I thought I looked pretty cool and my stepbrother and stepsister loved it. My mom made some comments about "youre a mother and mothers dont look like freaks". Awwwww Thanksgiving was a success since I pissed them off.

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I want to have Christmas at your house!

The only real problem I have w/them is that they think I should be like them. They dont know any other way.

& I cant be like them, so I wont.
Still damn fustrating.

Also you can pick your relatives, not your blood relatives perhaps, but Yea, you can/


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Location: London Town
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As the poem starts

'They fuck you up your mum and Dad'

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Lets have a sing song round the ol' joanna.

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Bangor, ME
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did you take pics stellar?

i really want a pic of that, very interesting mental image

i hate my family

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