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billgerat
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Snakebit

http://www.rattlesnakebite.org/rattlesnakepics.htm

Remind me never to get bit by a rattler.

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Not near as ugly, but you want to stay away from these damn things too.

http://www.highway60.com/mark/brs/linda_bite.htm

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Large Filipino
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Damm. They got them spiders here in Colorader.
I wonder if they applied a tourniquet to that kid if it would have kept some of the poison from going to his arm.

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lucidnightmare
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Every damn spider I see around here looks like that.It's hard to tell them apart.

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quote:
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I wonder if they applied a tourniquet to that kid if it would have kept some of the poison from going to his arm.



Bad idea

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skinny
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quote:
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Every damn spider I see around here looks like that.It's hard to tell them apart.


As spiders freak me out a little, got covered with a nest as a kid, i say kill them all. Uless i can't beat it to death, then i just run away.

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Large Filipino
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Bad idea


Would it have done more hand damage?
Then it would have gone to the arm anyway probably.
I bet he was fasinated looking at his arm muscles.

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Tourniquets shouldn't be used for that sort of thing, especially by nonmedical people. They work best in keep fluids from leaving the body, not controlling what is already there.

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Large Filipino
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That's good to know cause I would have used a tourniquet cause it's cool when your hand gets blue and numb,then it tingles. I do that to my finger sometimes.

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Re: Snakebit

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Remind me never to get bit by a rattler.


Yeah, no kiddin'. Good lord!

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wonderaz
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I have been. It hurts.
At least I didn't have to go through all that.

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Large Filipino
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I bet you sucked it all out.

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no, that doesn't work either.

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Tourniquets shouldn't be used for that sort of thing, especially by nonmedical people. They work best in keep fluids from leaving the body, not controlling what is already there.


I think a fist under the armpit or in the groin stems the flow similar to a torniquet, in a emergency.

I think a fist up the arse stops the flow of non life threatening fluids.

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wonderaz
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correct on both counts, skinny.

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Large Filipino
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But under the armpit means you'll see muscle still.
But a fist up the arse....what if the victim is a minor?

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Then you qualify for a NAMBLA membership unless you are Philipino.
Then it's just grocery shopping.

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Trenchant_Troll
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WTF?! I always thought that rattlesnake venom was a neurotoxin? I didn't know it necrotized the flesh too.

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Large Filipino
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I bet that snake had ebola.

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Toxicity

Most species of rattlesnakes have hemotoxic venom, destroying tissue, degenerating organs and disrupting blood clotting. Rattlesnakes have the most potent hemotoxic venom of any snake, making them one of the most dangerous snakes in the world. A few other snakes have stronger venom, but the large amounts of venom rattlers can inject make their bites one of the worst. Some degree of permanent scarring is very likely in the event of a venomous bite, even with prompt, effective treatment, and a severe envenomation, combined with delayed or ineffective treatment, can lead to the loss of a limb and usually death. Thus, a rattlesnake bite is always a potentially serious, or even fatal, injury. Untreated rattlesnake bites, especially from larger species, are usually fatal. However, antivenom, when applied in time, reduces the death rate to less than 4%.

The venom of the Mojave Rattler is the most potent - its LD-50 is comparable to an Indian Cobra. Large Diamondback rattlers, while having considerably less potency by volume than other species such as the Mojave or Midget Faded rattlesnakes, possess a large enough volume of venom to kill several hundred humans.

Some rattlesnakes, especially the tropical species, have neurotoxic venom. A bite from these snakes can interfere with the function of the heart, paralyze the lungs, and shut down parts of the nervous system. Bites by neurotoxic species such as the Mojave Rattlesnake should be field treated by wrapping the bitten area with an elastic bandage to impede the spread of the poison for as long as possible. This is not a tourniquet, and should be wrapped only as tightly as one would wrap a sprain (it should be possible to slip a finger between the bandage and the limb). The goal is to impede the subcutaneous circulation of the venom. Tourniquets are not recommended for any type of snakebite.

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I bet you sucked it all out.


yeah. suck it out then watch your lips melt off your face.

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That would be cool to watch.

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8< Toxicity





A superb reason to stay the FUCK away from rattlesnakes!

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