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Bad shit in Iraq v.2.0

From Salam Pax, the Iraqi war blogger, on his new site http://justzipit.blogspot.com/ :

Wednesday, May 03, 2006

R is a shop owner - electronics, mobile phone accessories that sort of thing – he’d gotten married recently and his wife was pregnant. He also had his parents and sister to support which is why he thought it would be a good idea to expand his business a bit so he borrowed some money to expand. He borrows and lends money all the time. Part of doing business but this time he borrowed from the wrong people.

The lenders wanted their money back after a couple of months but R didn’t have it. This wasn’t what the lenders wanted to hear so they threatened to kill him if he didn’t pay. Nothing new here, Baghdad is the new Wild Wild West and death threats are almost issued with the monthly food rations.

R’s family did inform the police and file a report but the father knew there was nothing they would do.

R’s family asked him to leave Baghdad for a while so he went to Kurdistan where he had relatives and everybody thought he would be safe there. But the lenders thought this was just too annoying and they just weren’t going to tolerate this rudeness.

It happened at 6am in the morning.
R’s mother has knee trouble she can’t walk well and his father is a simple elderly man and R’s sister, a 26 year old woman, is also home she doesn’t work and takes care of here father and mother.

R’s mother was woken up by an explosion at six, not too loud. Maybe something in the distant. Her husband wasn’t beside her; he usually wakes up early for the morning prayer and walks a bit in the garden.

R’s sister ran out to find here father only to find that the sound of the explosions wasn’t loud not because it was far away but because this was a small bomb that exploded in their drive way, under their own car.

The “lenders” had come early in the morning tied up R’s father who was probably walking in his garden, put him in the car and set an explosive device under the car. R’s father died in the burning car. The “lenders” had left a note of warning as well.

R’s mother and sister have been on the move since that day, they couldn’t even do a proper funeral. The police never bothered to do something deciding it is just another gang and they can’t really help.
posted by salam at 2:14 AM


Sunday, May 07, 2006

Today there was an interview with the minister of Justice in the newspaper.

There have been rumours that inmates who have been sentenced to death for crimes related to terrorism have been walking out of their cells by the truckload. And there is one wild rumour circulating about a group of another terrorists in a “high security” Iraqi jail in a remote area digging a tunnel out of their jail.

What was his response? He admitted that death-row inmates have been bribing the prison wardens and they were letting them go. He didn’t think it was his or his ministry’s fault. Apparently it is the fault of the National Assembly. The law laid down by the NA for death sentences make it necessary to do a lot of paper work which has been taking the ministry up to two months to finish and this time is apparently more than enough for indicted terrorists to become chummy with their wardens and find out how much it would take to let hem walk and then get in contact with their buddy terrorists and arrange for payments.
posted by salam at 2:18 AM


Monday, May 08, 2006

The District of Ameryiah (west of Baghdad) has entered some sort of parallel universe. It has been living this one for a while but from what I had heard yesterday it has officially left the galaxy we know and entered a galaxy ruled by an alien race called Sunni Fundamentalists .

There have been killings of barbers who shave beards for a while there. Shops were bombed because they sell un-Islamic clothing and Shia shop owners slaughtered on the streets.

The latest news coming from this far and distant galaxy is that a school deep in that dark and cold world have told Shia kids not to come to school anymore. The purity of Sunni land shouldn’t be tainted by those dirty Shia coming to their schools.

Parents who got the not-so-subtle hint and decided to move out of the district were also in the same not so subtle way informed that they were not allowed actually take anything with them. No trucks with a load that looked like a house move was allowed to get out of the district and the drivers were killed. The houses of those dirty Shia were legitimate loot for the Sunni Jihadists who are working hard to insure the purity of the district.
posted by salam at 2:19 AM


Wednesday, May 10, 2006

This is a bit related to the earlier post. It seems the ministry of Higher Education (Universities) has joined the ministry of Education (Schools and High Schools) in admitting that they cannot really take responsibility for their charges. The ministry of Higher Education has announced today that it is giving Universities the right to choose the date for their final exams which is sort of telling them you can have them as early as you want.

Elementary and High Schools have all but closed down. Principals have telling parents that kids don’t have to come to school until the final exams on the 20th.
posted by salam at 2:19 AM


Tuesday, May 16, 2006

And the weirdness continues.

Ahmad’s father is attacked while in a taxi in the Shula district. Mind you, nothing personal, he is just a lowly employee in a government job he means nothing on the scale of the big fish. Just some freak who probably was bored and decided to shoot a random car. Luckily he and the taxi driver are only wounded and rushed to the hospital near by.

Ahmad gets a phone call and leaves work to go check on his injured father. Shula is a Shia district and although it has seen its share of violence it was never as mad as neighbouring Ameriyah, so he wasn’t that worried about going there.

When he gets there he finds out that his father will survive and other than the injury he doesn’t have much to worry about. He walks out of the hospital and before he gets to his car he is bundled up and kidnapped.

A couple of hours later his body is found, decapitated. His head in a plastic bag near the body and no explanation.

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The latest news from Ameriyah is that the Jihadis there have distributed leaflets advising women against wearing that devilish invention called Trousers. A friend of my mother who usually goes to work in the local bank in trousers has taken a couple of days off to go look for skirts.

The driver of the mini-bus who drives my cousin to university from Ameriyah has told all the girls that if they don’t wear a headscarf they are not getting on the bus “they won’t kill you, they will kill me”.
My cousin now has her first collection of scarves matching her purses.

Islamists:2 Freedom & Democracy: Nil

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It should not be a surprise to you if you have been following the news of Iraqi ministries that the Ministry of Health is controlled by the supporters of Moqtada al-Sadr and it is not yet clear whether in the new government this will be the same.

And since every good Muslim knows that when a man and a woman are alone the devil will be their third the minister, in an effort to minimize the possibility of such devilish threesomes, has segregated the elevators. When you walk into the ministry today you will see the elevators marked like toilets, one for men and one for women.

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One of my parents’ friends house was robbed last week. It’s a big house but they are both retired and they don’t really have much, which really pissed off the 6 armed men who barged into the house late that night.

While the house was being ransacked they found the couple’s passports. Chief-thief threw it at them and asked a VERY wise question: “When you two have passports can you tell me what you are still doing here?”

I ask myself the same question almost everyday. And clearly answering “this is home” really isn’t cutting it anymore.
posted by salam at 5:46 PM

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Here's some other links for the Iraqi reporting of events that are happening or have happened:


Riverbend is a western educated woman in Baghdad who was a computer tech under the days of Saddam, but lost her job after the US invasion. She has a best-selling book out which compiles her posts after the toppling of the regime. A lot of stories about what it's like living under the occupation.

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

Raed is the friend of Salam Pax mentioned in Salam's abandoned wartime blog Where Is Raed? http://dear_raed.blogspot.com/ (which he has a book out also of his blog posts, but you can read them all from the old website - very fascinating stuff). Raed is now living here in the US, and his blog is very left and anti-Bush leading. I disagree whith a lot of his conclusions, but he still is a good read.

http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/

Two other links here are interesting enough, but pretty partisan.

http://dailywarnews.blogspot.com/

http://iraqiscreen.blogspot.com/

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this is the kind of nonsense you have to deal with when you pussy out on the nuclear carpet bombing option

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Iraq is less dangerous than Northern Ireland was for us Brits.

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so that must mean the war was a good idea.

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UK has lost 111 men so far, so I guess that's something like 35 a year. That's clearly not that many (don' t know how it compares to Northern Ireland, and I don't know how many troops we had in Northern Ireland to calculate probabilities of dying). Of course, the British area is rather less dangerous than some of the US areas and the British troops had more practice at this sort of urban pacification stuff.

Was listening to a couple of military types on NPR and one of them was saying that for it not to turn out like Vietnam, it had to be more like the British campaign in Malaya (a victory against communist insurgents in the jungle, unlike Vietnam). I guess that lacking overwhelming military force isn't so much of a handicap when fighting an insurgency, because overwhelming military force isn't an enormous amount of use anyhow.

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I don't confess to be a historian on Northern Ireland.
I don't know how many troops were there, but i think in relation to the geography there wasn't that many, they were just concentrated in Belfast, Derry and the counties Armagh, Fermanah and the likes.

In about thirty years 3500 people were killed from all sides

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users...hs_by_year.html

Although i have mixed emotions about the why and hows of the troubles in NI and Iraq, once our people are there, i'm behind them all the way.

Does anybody think this fucking idiot, Brian Haw, is actually going to achieve anything protesting outside parliament. Doesn't he realise he's just a tourist attraction after five fucking years, and he's not going to change fuck all....although 10 out of 10 for trying.

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Most of that 3500 weren't soldiers, they were Northern Irish civilians and police, I think.

By way of comparison, current Iraqi civilian deathtoll is running at 1000 a month (of course, the total Iraqi population is probably 20 or more times larger than the Northern Irish population, but these deaths are probably relatively concentrated, too).

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Over 2 to 1 civilians killed against police and soldiers. Double soldiers to police. These, or the vast majority, were due to acts of terrorism, which they called a war.

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/ni/ROH.html



I was listening to an discussion between the Limehouse Group, which is a group of proff's and the likes , about national security and amending the Geneva Convention, Ithink it was the fourth GC, saying it was outdated and written in times of a very visible war, whereas today we are fighting a very invisible war.

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The Limehouse Group of Analysts

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Is it terrorism if you shoot at soldiers or bomb their barracks? I mean, we could hardly expect them to stand in the streets wearing uniform, shooting at us; that'd be fucking retarded, they'd get annhilated. For that matter, terrorism is a military strategy in itself, same as it was when we practised it against the Germans in, for example, Dresden (and when they did the same in bombing civilian areas of, say, London).

As for the GC, the British didn't treat IRA men under it in any case. It was a criminal matter (the IRA, of course, insisted that it was a war, which would give them a certain sort of legitimacy, same as today's Islamists do).

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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Smug Git .

As for the GC, the British didn't treat IRA men under it in any case. It was a criminal matter (the IRA, of course, insisted that it was a war, which would give them a certain sort of legitimacy, same as today's Islamists do). [/B]


That's my point Smug, if the IRA insist it's a war, why couldn't we shoot to kill and why when their was a shoot kill policy, or not depending on who you talk to, were there complaints from opposing combatants. The British Government new all the high ranking people. If this is, sorry if that was an open war we would have took them out....yes i know it wouldn't have stopped it, it's just a thought about the terrorist war we fight now.

I'm not saying I know what to change or how, but GC 4, section 3 deals with something near.

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so that must mean the war was a good idea.


no, it means Iraq is less dangerous than Northern Ireland was for us Brits. Can you not read?

In 1972, the IRA killed twice as many British servicemen as Iraqi insurgents have managed in three years. It's called perspective.

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That's my point Smug, if the IRA insist it's a war, why couldn't we shoot to kill and why when their was a shoot kill policy, or not depending on who you talk to, were there complaints from opposing combatants. The British Government new all the high ranking people. If this is, sorry if that was an open war we would have took them out....yes i know it wouldn't have stopped it, it's just a thought about the terrorist war we fight now.

I'm not saying I know what to change or how, but GC 4, section 3 deals with something near.



The point of treating them like criminals is that it was to deligitimise them; they, on the other hand, were claiming ancestry from the Independence struggle as a military force.

The 'shoot to kill' questioning made sense, in that light, particularly as it applied to the RUC (which was a police force). The people being shot at were, in large part, British citizens. Declaring it to be a war (not 'declaring war', but just treating it like a war) would have been a massive mistake, in my book, and I'm glad that we didn't. They were, and are, criminals, as were, and are, their counterparts on the loyalist side.

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From Riverbend...


Wednesday, May 31, 2006

Viva Muqtada...

It’s fascinating to watch the world beyond Iraq prepare for the World Cup. I get pictures by email of people hanging flags and banners, in support of this team or that one. Oh we have flags and banners too- the hole-ridden black banners all over Baghdad, announcing deaths and wakes. The flags are all of one color, usually- black, green, red, or yellow- representing a certain religious party or political group.


A friend who owns a shop in Karrada had a little problem with a certain flag last week. Karrada was one of the best mercantile areas in Baghdad prior to the war. It was the area you went to when you had a list of unrelated necessities- like shoes, a potato peeler, pink nail polish and a dozen blank CDs. You were sure to find everything you needed in under an hour.


After the war, SCIRI, Da’awa and other religious parties instantly opened up bureaus in the area. Shops that once displayed colorful clothes, and posters of women wearing makeup, began looking more subdued. Soon, instead of pictures of the charming women advertising Dior perfume, shops began putting up pictures of Sistani, looking half-alive, shrouded in black. Or pictures of Sadr, grim and dark, and almost certainly not smelling like Dior.


This friend owns a small cosmetics shop where he sells everything from lipstick to head scarves. His apartment is located right over the shop so that when he looks down from the living room window, he can see whoever is standing at the shop door. G. inherited the shop from his father, who sold sewing materials instead of cosmetics. The shop has been in his family for nearly 20 years. Prior to the war, his wife and sister ran the shop, making the most persuasive sales duo in the history of cosmetics probably (the proof of this being a garishly colored neck scarf I bought 4 years ago and never took out of the closet since). After the war, and various threats in the form of letters and broken windows, G. began running the shop personally and in addition to cosmetics, he introduced an appropriately dark line of flowing abbayas and headscarves.


The last time I visited G. in his shop was two weeks ago. Since January, G.’s shop has been the center of some football (soccer) activity. His obsession with football has gotten to the point where the shop closes up two hours early so that E., the cousin and various other friends can gather for PlayStation FIFA tournaments. These tournaments are basically a group of grown men sitting around, maneuvering little digital men running around after a digital ball, screaming encouragement and insults at each other. If you walk into the shop looking to buy something during those hours, you risk being thrown out or simply told to “Just take it, take it- whatever it is. Take it and GO!”. Every World Cup year, G. and his wife only half-jokingly quarrel about changing his only sons name to that of the footballer of the year. (As a sort of compromise, family and friends have all agreed to call his 14-year-old son “Ronaldino” until the games are over.)



G.’s cousin, who has lived in Canada for nearly 15 years, recently sent G. a large, colorful Brazilian flag- perfect for hanging on a shop window. He told us how he was planning to hang it right in the center and paint under it in big bold letters “VIVA BRASILIA!!”. E. looked dubious as G. excitedly described how he’d be changing the colors of the display- green and yellow to match the flag.

It was up for nearly two whole days before the problems began. The first hint of a problem came through G.’s neighbor. He stopped by the shop and told G. that a black-turbaned young cleric had been walking past the shop window, when the flag attracted his attention. According to the neighbor Abu Rossul, the young cleric stopped, gazed at the flag, took note of the shops name and location and went on his way. G. shrugged it off with the words, “Well maybe he’s a fan of Brazil too…” Abu Rossul wasn’t so sure, “He looked more like the ‘Viva Sadr!’ type to me…”.

A day later, G. had a visit at noon. A young black-clad cleric walked into the shop, and had a brief look around. G. tried to interest him in some lovely headscarves and abbayas, but he was not to be deterred from his apparent mission. He claimed to be a ‘representative’ from the Sadr press bureau which was a few streets away and he had a message for G.: the people at the abovementioned bureau were not happy with G.’s display. Where was his sense of national pride? Where was his sense of religion? Instead of the face of a heathen player, there were pictures of the first Sadr, or better yet, Muqtada! Why did he have a foreign flag plastered obscenely on his display window? Should he feel the need for a flag, there was the Iraqi flag to put up. Should he feel the necessity for a green flag, like the one in the display, there was the green flag of “Al il Bayt”… Democracy, after all, is all about having options.

G. wasn’t happy at all. He told the young cleric he would find a ‘solution’ and made a peace offering of some inexpensive men’s slippers and some cotton undershirts he sometimes sold. That evening, he conferred with various relatives and friends and although nearly everyone advised him to take down the flag, he insisted it should remain on display as a matter of principle. His wife even offered to turn it into a curtain or bed sheets for him to enjoy until the games were over. He was adamant about keeping it up.

Two days later, he found a rather dramatic warning letter slipped under the large aluminum outer door. In a nutshell, it declared G. and people like him ‘heathens’ and demanded he take down the flag or he would be exposing himself to danger. It takes quite a bit to shake up a guy like G., but the same day he had the flag down and the display was back to normal.

As it turns out, Muqtada has a fatwa against football (soccer). I downloaded it and this is a translation of what he says when someone asks him for a fatwa on football and the World Cup:

“In reality, my father's position on this topic isn't deficient... Not only my father but Sharia also prohibits such activities which keep the followers too occupied for worshiping, keep people from remembering [to worship]. Habeebi, the West created things that keep us from completing ourselves (perfection). What did they make us do? Run after a ball, habeebi… What does that mean? A man, this large and this tall, Muslim- running after a ball? Habeebi, this ‘goal’ as it is called… if you want to run, run for a noble goal. Follow the noble goals which complete you and not the ones that demean you. Run after a goal, put it in your mind and everyone follows their own path to the goal to satisfy God. That is one thing. The second thing, which is more important, we find that the West and especially Israel, habeebi the Jews, did you see them playing soccer? Did you see them playing games like Arabs play? They let us keep busy with soccer and other things and they've left it. Have you heard that the Israeli team, curse them, got the World Cup? Or even America? Only other games... They've kept us occuppied with them- singing, and soccer, and smoking, stuff like that, satellites used for things which are blasphemous while they occuppy themselves with science etc. Why habeebi? Are they better than us- no we're better than them.”

Important note: Islamic Sharia does not prohibit soccer/football or sports- it’s only prohibited by the version of Sharia in Muqtada’s dark little head. I wonder what he thinks of tennis, swimming and yoga…

I listened to the fatwa, with him getting emotional about playing football, and I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. Foreign occupation and being a part of a puppet government- those things are ok. Football, however, will be the end of civilization as we know it, according to Muqtada. It’s amusing- they look nothing alike- yet he reminds me so much of Bush. He can barely string two sentences together properly and yet, millions of people consider his word law. So when Bush raves about the new ‘fledgling Iraqi government’ ‘freely elected’ into power, you can take a look at Muqtada and see one of the fledglings. He is currently one of the most powerful men in the country for his followers.

So this is democracy. This is one of the great minds of Bush’s democratic Iraq.

Sadr’s militia control parts of Iraq now. Just a couple of days ago, his militia, with the help of Badr, were keeping women from visiting the market in the southern city of Karbala. Women weren’t allowed in the marketplace and shop owners were complaining that their businesses were suffering. Welcome to the new Iraq.

It’s darkly funny to see what we’ve turned into, and it is also anguishing. Muqtada Al-Sadr is a measure of how much we’ve regressed these last three years. Even during the Iran-Iraq war and the sanctions, people turned to sports to keep their mind off of day-to-day living. After the occupation, we won a football match against someone or another and we’d console ourselves with “Well we lose wars- but we win football!” From a country that once celebrated sports- football (soccer) especially- to a country that worries if the male football players are wearing long enough shorts or whether all sports fans will face eternal damnation… That’s what we’ve become.


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no, it means Iraq is less dangerous than Northern Ireland was for us Brits. Can you not read?

In 1972, the IRA killed twice as many British servicemen as Iraqi insurgents have managed in three years. It's called perspective.



Yeah but the whole point of you getting perspective is to excuse the situation and ultimately support it.

There is no good reason for english troops to be in iraq right now. Its costing money and lives for no return to the english public. The whole war was based on a falsehood so why make excuses for it?

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You cant make excuses for the basis of war but you can for the outcome. Knocking it down is going to entail putting it back up of course, I think we all understood that what was coming was 'regime change' which implies the fashioning of a new one. Id say a demilitarized Iraq and Saddam out of power is a payoff for the world, a net plus if you will...taking into account the money spent, goals reached, people killed, etc. and so on. Its that good. And it could pay out really well or just sort of good or eww, its E. Timor not so good but whatever, well be home by then!



ps. we kicked yer fucking ass!

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Id say a demilitarized Iraq and Saddam out of power is a payoff for the world, a net plus if you will...


Demilitarized? Since when?

And I'm sure the people in Iraq, noting the consequences above, wholeheartedly agree with you

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Boo hoo for them then if its not all fucking roses. Its better for everyone else but them...and then, its even better for a lot of them. But hey, life always sucks when you come out from under a thumb...ask South Africa.

You understand demilitarized means we removed the Iraqi military under the control of Saddam Hussein right? Cause Im pretty sure its obvious what Im saying there since its written in the English language and its about as straightforeward and plain as possible, its one whole word. Maybe you dont know what demilitarized means or maybe your only conception of it is the DMZ but uh, yeah, its pretty much not up for debate that we demiliterized Iraq.

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