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funkyrooster
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They've got Zarqawi

Or bits of him, apparently

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/5058304.stm

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One more for the pile.

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Jolly good.

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It is a good day. Another savage joins the fossil record.

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It is good. But then another savage will only take his place.

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No doubt. There's a whole lot more killin' to do.

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I was thinking about it and I think its gonna be a while before Al Qaida is seen doing anything. Guys like this are rare in the general mass of stupid Islamists. So, what then will they do? Cause they arent done. Will they again attack outside Iraq as a show of strength? Anyones guess...

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Could it be that the White House is actually dealing with this occasion with some tact? How delightful.

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I read a report (think that it was in the WashTimes) that quoted a senior administration source (not named, of course) as saying that they didn't want another 'mission accomplished' moment. Which is wise, I think.

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I was watching the reports in the airport and was quite disturbed that they had to keep showing two pictures, side by side, labeled "Dead" and "Alive."

Like we couldn't tell the difference?

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quote:
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Like we couldn't tell the difference?

"before and after receiving a healthy dose of freedom"

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Freedom isn't free, ice-boy.

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quote:
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Freedom isn't free, ice-boy.

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the high speed freedom capsules were sponsored by American tax payers

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Indeed, we even sponsor your existence. Well, not 'we' per se, but me.

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I didn't realize the house also contained two men, two women, and a six year old girl.

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No, nor did I. Where did you hear that?

When Saddam's son's were killed, there was a ten year old boy (Saddam's grandson) in there, too.

You can't make an omelette without killing children.

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If you have a picnic on top of a big ass target on a missile range, you shouldn't be surprised if ants aren't the only thing joining the party.

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I can't find confirmation that there was a child there (initial reports said that there was, apparently).

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Hawley Griffin
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well what do you know, hanging around terrorists doesnt make you bomb proof

i for one am surprised

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quote:
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I can't find confirmation that there was a child there (initial reports said that there was, apparently).

The military isn't exactly being forthcoming on this point, but I read about it here. An opinion piece, not a news report.

It was reported matter-of-factely by a number of places initially, and then just kind of disappeared from most American news accounts. That there isn't confirmation or followup doesn't seem to be because of any new conflicting information (i.e. the story doesn't appear to have been corrected to leave out the mention of the women and children), but rather because they wanted to stop talking about it altogether, it seems.

edit: correction, the US military, after first denying it, did confirm it, they just didn't confirm that it was Zarqawi's daughter. And most press accounts dropped mention of it after the (shortly thereafter retracted) denial, and never picked it back up or thought it worth mention.

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The Telegraph:

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There were six people - including a woman and a child - in the house when the bombs landed, according to the US, but only Zarqawi and Abdul-Rahman have so far been identified.

WaPo:

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The strike killed three men, two women and a girl age 5 to 7, Caldwell said. U.S. officials previously had denied accounts from witnesses that a child died in the strike; Caldwell said he had been told only after his first press briefings that one of the dead was a girl.

Of the six victims, he said, authorities have identified only Zarqawi and Abdel Rahman.

NPR:

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Iraqi police arrived on the scene soon after, where they found Zarqawi, Abdel Rahman, and the unidentified bodies of four others.

"There's a woman in the group and a younger person -- a child," [U.S. military spokesman William] Caldwell said.

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I think I'm going to cut and paste the lewrockwell.com piece that I linked two posts back, because it's worth reading. For the record, I wasn't mentioning it because I would have done anything different, necessarily, or to try to tarnish anybody, but just because I was struck by how it went unmentioned, and it adds a mournful note to what has been triumphmentalist in nature. Getting Zarqawi was indeed a triumph in most respects, and the morale boost it'll hopefully cause is justified, but it's also worth remembering too that even in our triumphant moments, there's a real human cost beyond just raghead terrorist insurgents. War's not just a video game of good vs evil, after all. So, the article:

Killing Zarqawi’s Daughter

by Dean Lawrence R. Velvel

There is an aspect of the killing of Zarqawi about which I have read no comment whatever, although the bare facts have been reported, if sometimes conflictingly. The absence of any comment, it seems to me, speaks volumes about what the country has become.

Zarqawi, as all know, was not the only one killed when two 500-pound bombs were dropped on the safe house. Two other men were killed there, two women were also, and though the military spokesman at first denied it (read lied about it), so was a small child who is now said to have been five or six years old. There have been some Iraqi reports that one of the wo