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skalie
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Win 2000 pro uninstall problem

Specifically I need to uninstall...

flash8b.ocx

C:\WINNT\system32\Macromed\Flash\
flash8b.ocx

I try to change the "read only" properties only to get an "ascess denied" message.

This http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=20...3e0dc924e358722 managed to do it, but he's probably a rocket scientist.

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if you have a second win installation you could delete it from there. or maybe boot into safe mode and then try deleting the file.

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Tried renaming the file first, rebooting and then trying to delete it? Also check the permissions on the Flash and Macromedia folders themselves. NT does have some permissions inheritance that might be causing problems.

The only other way I can think to do it is as the guy in the thread you linked said he did it. Get a DOS boot disk with read/write NTFS support(http://www.bootdisk.com/ has some) and manually delete the folder in DOS.

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As macker says, renameing the file and rebooting does the trick if it's a case of a process locking the file down via file access (loaded library, open file handle, etc).

Of course, this is assuming you are logged into an account with write access to the directory and it's contents (or one that can take ownership of objects/change permissions).

Course if you wanted to get serious, write a 10 or so line utility that uses this function
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d.../movefileex.asp
(or be insane and edit the registry value this function uses.)

MoveFileEx("C:\WINNT\system32\Macromed\Flash\flash8b.ocx", NULL, MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT);

Sloppy, but effective.

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No go on the re-name.

All I want to do is uninstall the flash player for IE to do some testing, fucking microsoft.

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And flash isn't listed under Add/Remove Programs (or whatever equivalent 2000 uses. Been a while since I used NT)

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flash player, it's a browser add on

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http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowle...cfm?id=tn_14157

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I wish it was that easy dogcow.

The uninstaller seizes up, due, I would guess, to the flash8b.ocx file not wanting to be removed.

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how about this http://tinyurl.com/atkeo

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Getting closer, although it didn't work.

"Would you like to perform requested operation at next reboot"

Rebooted, offending file remains.

....... fuck it, what are the chances of someone turning up on a site without flash installed?

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none, for a non-geek.

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If you can't rename the file, rename the directory (though renameing the file used to always work when you used the command shell cmd "ren %1 %2". The GUI shit is picky).

Helpful stuff here:
http://personal.cfw.com/~tkprit/utils/cmd.html

and here:
http://commandwindows.com/command3.htm

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Thanks thimbles, but I'm not going near the command line. This is my development machine and the only access to the interent I have, if I fuck something up, I'm, well, fucked.

It's just that I wanted to test a new method of implanting flash in a website, as in from a computer without the flash player installed already. Just seems that the player I have now just doesn't want to leave.

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The only reasons a file in Win2000 would not let you remove or rename would be:

1. It's in use
Possibly there is an active desktop enabled in the browser that has a hook on this flash8b.ocx file even when the browser is closed. i believe it's in the properties of the desktop in the properties window. Right click on the actual desktop go to last, or next to last tab in the properties box simply uncheck "Active Desktop" and restart and try again.

2. Inherited Rights, Permissions, or Ownership issue.
If the original Windows 2000 software was loaded as "Local Admin" and then set effective rights and permissions those rights are inherited down for any new recursive sub directories created under that structure. Then you (even with administrator equivalence) do not have the right to remove this file if you are not the 'Owner". Only if you log in as "Local Admin" or "Administrator" would you be able to assign effective rights or ownership to that directory containing the offending .ocx file. Most likely you have a seperate user "Skalie" or something different that you log in as. Restart and log in as the original local admin (hopefully thats a user called "Administrator" or "Admin") and browse using my computer to the C:\WINNT\system32\Macromedia directory and right click over that directory to set the effective permissions for that dir. You would see a "Permissions, Ownership, or Rights" tab in the properties box. You could figure it out from there. Add your self as the owner of the parent directory on down..... and then click "Apply' providing the file is not actually in use elsewhere you can then do whatever you wish to the file.

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Even when the file is in use, you can ren it.

I used to be a developer on a va-Gina.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/i...SecurityBriefs/
I did this a lot (swaping out old buggy gina for new spiffy (buggy) version). A program called GodMode (puts a command window on the WinLogon Desktop) was my bestest friend during that time.

It works.

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More thoughts here.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=320081

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for a second after seeing the thread title, i thought it was spam, advertising that i could win up to two thousand professional uninstall problems. i was mighty confused.

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quote:
Originally posted by Thimbles worth of opinion
More thoughts here.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=320081



Nice, both articles are very informative.

I know you've obviously seen the local admin "Ownership" issues before on preloaded IT rollout systems. They always have seperate local admin accounts to cover their asses.

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