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Blogs: Spied on, lied to, and lied to again

Breaking: Spying started
well before 9/11


By Evan Derkacz
Posted on July 3, 2006, Printed on July 4, 2006
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/38457/,http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/38457/

Bloomberg News
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?...cO64zJE&refer=# reported,
on the Friday before a four day weekend, that Bush administration NSA
spying plans began well before 9/11.

"The U.S. National Security Agency asked AT&T Inc. to help it set up
a domestic call monitoring site seven months before the Sept. 11,
2001 attacks, lawyers claimed June 23 in court papers filed in New
York federal court."

Whoops.

John in DC
http://americablog.blogspot.com/200...py-on-your.htmlwrites:
"if true, it negates Bush's entire argument that the spying was
needed to fight the war on terror..."

More than that, it negates the administration's legal defense that it
was the Authorization to Use Military Force that authorized the
program.

It obliterates it and seems to point to the expansion of presidential
power as the true reason for the program.

It makes liars out of a number of people as well, according to
http://thegreatsociety.blogsome.com...s-prior-to-911/ Matt
O, via
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/0...o-congress.html Dave
Neiwert:

"Cheney said if the administration had the power 'before 9/11, we
might have been able to pick up on two of the hijackers who flew a
jet into the Pentagon.'"
Then-NSA chief (and now CIA chief) Michael Hayden ("Had this program
been in effect prior to 9/11, it is my professional judgment that we
would have detected some of the 9/11 al Qaeda operatives in the
United States, and we would have identified them as such," said Hayden
Just in case anybody thinks that FISA, the system given the runaround
with Bush's NSA program, was unnecessarily harsh, consider this:
Since its inception in 1978, according to The One Percent Doctrine,
only 5 of 19,000 applications were denied.

Five of 19,000.

The Punchline: NSA spying
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...05-10-nsa_x.htm doesn't
really work. (http://americablog.blogspot.com/Americablog,
http://thegreatsociety.blogsome.com/ Great Society,
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/ Orcinus)

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well, this will be interesting to see unfold.

cheers for the heads up
-m

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Weather every half hour, but CNN has yet to run this in 2 hours of watching, God Bless the Liberal Media

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